# Can the Democrats win the Alabama senate special election in December? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 13, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504 "2017-08-13T00:49:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1221 "2017-12-13T03:42:47Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > And enough of a margin that there’s no automatic recount. They don’t stop counting when the AP declares a winner. Right now, Jones is ahead by ~10,000 votes, a margin of 0.8%, but they’re still waiting to get vote totals from 162 (out of 2,220) precints. The NYT puts it this way: > [@](#): > > Right now, our most likely estimates span Jones +2.2 to Jones +0.5. The more we know, the narrower our range will be. ETA: Your post is the most likely outcome, but it’s not yet determined. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1222 "2017-12-13T03:43:05Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Roll Tide! This particular tide doesn’t appear to be crimson. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1223 "2017-12-13T03:46:05Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > Now it’s just mostly people standing around talking, but they’ve got a newscast on their screen showing a Jones victory… 😃 The big posters besides the screen say “_JUDGE_ Roy Moore”… That should be former, or expelled Judge. What a sad case of hubris… ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1224 "2017-12-13T03:46:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I was wrong. > And I’m _damn_ happy to be wrong. 😃 Me as well - never more pleased to be flat out wrong. MAGA!!! ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1225 "2017-12-13T03:46:53Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > The big posters besides the screen say “_JUDGE_ Roy Moore”… We just did! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1226 "2017-12-13T03:47:35Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > The big posters besides the screen say \*\*“_JUDGE_ Roy Moore”… > \*\* > That should be former, or expelled Judge. What a sad case of hubris… I’d say he done been judged. Judged not acceptable for the Senate. 😃 LOL, oh, snap, **scr4**! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1227 "2017-12-13T03:48:38Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > The Democratic senator from Alabama. Never thought I’d hear those words. When I was a kid, it was known as the [Solid South,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South) solidly Democratic, that is. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1228 "2017-12-13T03:50:01Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > So Trump has backed two losers for the same election. Who will he blame now? My bet is he goes after McConnell and the Senate Republicans for not ‘doing enough’ to support _his_ candidate. Maybe a few snide remarks at Senator Shelby, who voted for a write-in candidate instead of Moore (and told the media about it). Right now the write-in vote is less than the difference between Moore and Jones. So expect that to hit the fan. We shall see. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1229 "2017-12-13T03:50:07Z")
So will Trump delete all his tweets supporting Moore? [One for posterity.](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/940584383605563392) > [@](#): > > The people of Alabama will do the right thing. Doug Jones is Pro-Abortion, weak on Crime, Military and Illegal Immigration, Bad for Gun Owners and Veterans and against the WALL. Jones is a Pelosi/Schumer Puppet. Roy Moore will always vote with us. VOTE ROY MOORE! The people of Alabama did the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1230 "2017-12-13T03:50:11Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > This particular tide doesn’t appear to be crimson. Best I could manage with the resources available. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1231 "2017-12-13T03:51:07Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > We just did! And found wanting. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1232 "2017-12-13T03:53:29Z")
_“I tried to help Roy Moore but he didn’t take my support soon enough.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1233 "2017-12-13T03:53:45Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Best I could manage with the resources available. Heh. Wasn’t criticizing your approximation of 'Bama colours. I was rather suggesting that something like this would be more appropriate: Roll Tide! ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1234 "2017-12-13T03:54:20Z")
Looks like only Jefferson county left to count - and they’ve been going 2-1 for Jones. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1235 "2017-12-13T03:54:26Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Heh. Wasn’t criticizing your approximation of 'Bama colours. I was rather suggesting that something like this would be more appropriate: > Roll Tide! Well played, Sir. Well played. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1236 "2017-12-13T03:54:56Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I’m guessing he tries to memory-hole the embarrassment (“Luther Strange, who I ALWAYS supported, would have won this easy! Insiders stabbed him in the back! Sad! DrainTheSwamp!!!”). I agree, I think this is the most likely way Trump will react to Moore’s loss. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1237 "2017-12-13T03:55:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > When I was a kid, it was known as the [Solid South,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South) solidly Democratic, that is. Wrong kind of Democrats, though. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1238 "2017-12-13T03:55:30Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Heh. Wasn’t criticizing your approximation of 'Bama colours. I was rather suggesting that something like this would be more appropriate: > Roll Tide! Isn’t that more along the lines of Auburn? Who won the Iron Bowl this year anyway? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1239 "2017-12-13T03:55:40Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > So will Trump delete all his tweets supporting Moore? > [One for posterity.](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/940584383605563392) > > The people of Alabama did the right thing. More FAKE NEWS covfefe from the FAKE NEWS MEDIA! I lent Jared and Stephen Miller my smartphone - they sent those tweets, not me. MAGA! ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/1240 "2017-12-13T03:56:14Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The marginal gain is in the nonzero possibility of another Senate seat becoming vacant in the same timeframe, at which point the magic number would drop to 49. How’s McCain’s health? McCain’s death wouldn’t help, Arizona has a Republican Governor as well as a law requiring that a replacement be from the same party. If McCain was incapacitated but had not resigned, that would be different. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504.md?page=63)