# Can Tiger get it back? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 4, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533 "2010-07-04T17:20:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/201 "2010-09-06T00:13:51Z")
Tiger is safe to Cog Hill if he shoots 72, IMO. If shoots a 74, he might be in trouble. He probably needs at least a 66 to get into top 10. If he shoots another indifferent round tomorrow, he will need his best finish of the year in Chicago to get into the Tour Championship. As far as his ranking, if he does not have an outstanding week in Chicago, he will lose his ranking, it is only a matter of time. If its not Mickelson, it will be Westwood. Sitting idle, he is losing 0.16 pts off his average per week. Other players are losing points off their average as well, but Westwood is also losing tournaments off his divisor. Tiger is not losing tournaments from his divisor. He is already at the minimum. realistic assumption for tomorrow and next week-two 10th place finishes. His average at the Ryder Cup will be 9.1. His average when he next tees it up in a stroke play tournament , in November, in China will be aroung 8.1 Phil is at 8.99 right now, and Westwood is 8.82 (and Westwoods is not moving much as he is losing tournaments from his divisor.) And the same philosophy that is helping Tiger maintain his number 1 ranking this year, will be hurting him next year as he tries to get back his #1 ranking. He has a lot of 2010 baggage that will be weighing him down. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/202 "2010-09-06T16:48:27Z")
Isn’t Stricker better positioned at this point than Westwood? ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/203 "2010-09-06T20:39:55Z")
I believe I heard Stricker’s name and not Westwood’s while watching SportCenter today at work. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/204 "2010-09-06T21:11:10Z")
Phil blew up big time. Two doubles and 2 bogies on the back nine. Tiger ends up beating him outright. What a choke. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/205 "2010-09-06T22:10:22Z")
Tiger finished tied for 11th. Not bad. Obviously, he lives to play another week. What does he need to do next week to get to the championship? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/206 "2010-09-06T22:24:49Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Phil blew up big time. Two doubles and 2 bogies on the back nine. Tiger ends up beating him outright. What a choke. That’s our Phil! Tiger did well. He may be on the mend. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/207 "2010-09-06T22:31:59Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Tiger finished tied for 11th. Not bad. > > Obviously, he lives to play another week. What does he need to do next week to get to the championship? He’s going to have to pass about 20 guys to qualify. That’d probably mean a top-5 finish. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/208 "2010-09-07T00:51:35Z")
> [@](#): > > What does he need to do next week to get to the championship? [Up to date Standings](http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?02395) Last year, #30 had 1532 points before the points were reset going into the Tour Championship. As of tonight, Tiger has 1032 points. If last year is any indication, then Tiger needs 500 points which is equivalent to a solo 6th place finish. Anything better than a 3-way tie for fifth, he should get into the TC. Sixth place (or 3 way T5 finish) should be close, either way, and anything worse will probably be out of the TC. I read speculation on a golf forum, that the top 30 cutoff will probably be lower than the 1532 number this year. The guy pointed out that a lot of this years points were pilfered by PGA Tour Non members. (PGATour non-members won three of the four majors this year, and 2nd place in three of the majors were also from PGATour non-members) Here is what the top 10 earns each week in the playoffs. 1st place … 2500 pts 2nd … 1500 3rd … 1000 4th … 750 5th … 550 6th … 500 7th … 450 8th … 425 9th … 400 10th … 375 Players want to be in the top 5 going into the TC, the only way TW can do that is to win. if they get to 10th place, they have a reasonable chance to win the Fedex cup, He needs to finish in a two way tie for second to get into the top 10. (unless the stars align very strangely). FTR, I read speculation on a golf forum, that the top 30 cutoff will probably be lower than the last year’s 1532 points. The guy pointed out that a lot of this years points were “pilfered” by PGA Tour Non members. \*PGATour non-members won three of the four majors this year, (McDowell, Oosthuizen, Kaymer) \*2nd place in three of the majors were also from PGATour non-members (Westwood, Havret, Westwood) \*Westwood also won a PGATour tourney in Memphis. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/209 "2010-09-10T15:10:33Z")
Tiger sucked again. He is 2 over while Kuchar is -7. Last week they said he had to get to 5th place to continue. That is not likely to happen. He will struggle to make the cut. Phil is even par first round. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/210 "2010-09-10T16:33:32Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Tiger sucked again. He is 2 over while Kuchar is -7. Last week they said he had to get to 5th place to continue. That is not likely to happen. He will struggle to make the cut. Is there a cut? Only 70 players started and he was in the middle of the pack. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/211 "2010-09-10T17:37:00Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > Tiger sucked again. He is 2 over while Kuchar is -7. Last week they said he had to get to 5th place to continue. That is not likely to happen. He will struggle to make the cut. > > Is there a cut? Only 70 players started and he was in the middle of the pack. Not that cut. This cut [http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/current/02394\_projections-1.html](http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/current/02394_projections-1.html) I think he needs to make top 5 to get there. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/212 "2010-09-10T17:49:20Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > > [@hajario](#): > > > > Is there a cut? Only 70 players started and he was in the middle of the pack. > > Not that cut. This cut > [http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/current/02394\_projections-1.html](http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/current/02394_projections-1.html) > I think he needs to make top 5 to get there. Got it. He is +2 through 15 so far today. He’s done. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/213 "2010-09-11T01:00:27Z")
IMO, a couple of rounds in the mid 60’s should put him close to a top 5 finish. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/214 "2010-09-11T01:52:42Z")
No problems then. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/215 "2010-09-11T02:40:51Z")
Last year he shot 62-68 on the weekend. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/216 "2010-09-11T02:51:29Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Last year he shot 62-68 on the weekend. And we all know his 2010 golf game is very comparable to last year. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/217 "2010-09-11T03:03:20Z")
he is in the process of redoing his swing again. He was the best golfer in the world, you can see the pressure to change. Can’t just stay the best, what fun is that? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/218 "2010-09-11T15:47:33Z")
TW better hurry up if he is going to shoot in the mid 60’s today. Even par after 12 holes. Tomorrow will probably be his last round on the PGATour in 2010, unless he makes something happen late today and tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/219 "2010-09-11T16:17:42Z")
And he is starting to “hurry” birdies on his 13th and 14th holes. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-tiger-get-it-back/545533/220 "2010-09-11T18:13:30Z")
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