# Can Trumpists ever be forgiven? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 23, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-trumpists-ever-be-forgiven/824965 "2018-11-23T04:23:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 49
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-trumpists-ever-be-forgiven/824965/49 "2018-11-23T22:01:36Z")
I made this statement a while back, and I still stand by it: > [@Question For Republicans: If Trump is elected...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-for-republicans-if-trump-is-elected/760420/28): > > I think Trump winning would be a net plus but only if measured a particular way. It’s not because of any particular policy position or anything though. I think Trump will be ineffective, so whatever BS he pushes will likely not be enacted and will not have far reaching consequence. I think Clinton will actually be effective so what she pushes has a good chance to come to pass. > > I think the way most people are comparing the two misses this reality - it’s not just about who’s policy or other positions are better or worse, it also matters who will be more effective in enacting their agenda. > > So evaluating the two based on expected return and not simply based on the merits of their positions, and given that I want the federal government to do as little as possible, it tips the scales for Trump. Trump is still a dumbass though. So far two SCOTUS appointments and I’m glad. If RBG or Breyer were to retire and there was a third appointment, I’d call that a great win. Trump in my view is a dumpster fire, but there need not be perfect candidates to advance an agenda. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-trumpists-ever-be-forgiven/824965)._