# Can we all just agree...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 15, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309 "2010-08-15T05:41:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/21 "2010-08-15T12:22:49Z")

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> [@PlainJain](#):
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> Seriously I’m just not getting anything except you hate everyone who has guns, control and money.

Of course, if the OP gets his way, he’ll have the guns, control and money, so we’ll end up hating _him_. I’m not sure he’s thought this thing all the way through.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/22 "2010-08-15T13:05:18Z")

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Enough of this shit.

DNFTT

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/23 "2010-08-15T13:54:12Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Didn’t LG used to have posts than this? It’s really reading like conspiracy nonsense now, but I could have sworn he used to be a valuable (if infrequent) contributor.
> 
> I’m honestly worried about him. (Granted, just a little.)

We’ve secretly replaced his usual medications with Pez… let’s see if he notices.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/24 "2010-08-15T14:00:09Z")

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Well fuck me for being optimistic. I saw the thread title and thought there would at last be an effort to string together a coherent rant. _Sigh_

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/25 "2010-08-15T14:15:01Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Enough of this shit.
> 
> DNFTT

Sorry, I come here for entertainment, it’s the pit fer chrissakes.

I throw peanuts to the shit-flinging monkeys at the zoo… I bet you wouldn’t like me doing that either, huh?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/26 "2010-08-15T14:40:57Z")

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Lots of us dream of being plutocrats one day.

We work and produce, hoping to be allowed into the club.

We won’t listen to naysayers like **lurking guest** who are trying to destroy our dream.

TOUGH NOOGIES **LG** , you crabby person!

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**Author:** ![Pandoranoid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce73a5/32.png) [@Pandoranoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pandoranoid)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/27 "2010-08-15T15:03:36Z")

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> [@SoulFrost](#):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > Didn’t LG used to have posts than this? It’s really reading like conspiracy nonsense now, but I could have sworn he used to be a valuable (if infrequent) contributor.
> > 
> > I’m honestly worried about him. (Granted, just a little.)
> 
> We’ve secretly replaced his usual medications with Pez… let’s see if he notices.

Snickeroo!

This post does make me wonder about something I noticed whilst cyber-socializing on Facebook. It’s a phenomenon that’s oddly similar to what happened to me when I smoked pot as a youngster. (Hear me out.)

Basically, people that I found intolerable or annoying when I was sober were more interesting or fun when I (or they, or maybe both of us) was/were stoned, or sometimes the reverse would be true. Not across the board, just sometimes. Facebook is kinda like that-again, just in some cases, not across the board. But often enough to be worth remarking upon, I find that folks I never really wanted to spend a lot of time with in real life become close Facebook chums, and some of my good real-life friends have really annoying posting habits that make me avoid them on-line.

Finally, I have also noticed that a lot of the folks that kinda push my whatta-fuckwad button online are people for whom English is a second language, acquired sometime after adolescence.  
I am not trying to insult foreigners here by comparing them to the OP, by the way. I’m just wondering–if you imagine that the OP is simply not overly experienced with communicating in English, or maybe assume that he/she was reeeally stoned when they posted–or maybe both–does the weirdly self-righteous incoherence become less annoying, more forgivable? Or am I just feeling overly charitable this morning?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/28 "2010-08-15T15:08:11Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> WE have BILLIONS of laborers who are willing to work for 30-cents/hr.

You realize that in many third world countries, that is a shit ton of money right? OK, maybe not a shit ton, but a very good wage.

> **[Chinese factory workers cash in sweat for prosperity](https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2010/03/chinese_factory_workers_cash_i.html)**
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> Market forces, not sweatshop activism, have improved labor conditions as migrants who make Nike and Columbia gear return home to buy houses and start their own businesses.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/29 "2010-08-15T15:08:26Z")

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Gonna have to go with the latter…

ETA: to Pandoranoid.

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**Author:** ![Pandoranoid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce73a5/32.png) [@Pandoranoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pandoranoid)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/30 "2010-08-15T15:09:31Z")

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Hmm…and let me clarify, since my post sounds sorta bigoted upon re-reading–I really do not consider foreigners to be more likely to be fuckwads. It is just easier to misinterpret a person’s manner/temperament/etc as kinda dickish when you have to contend with the ESOL-barrier on top of the not-communicating-face-to-face-barrier that is present in all on-line communications.  
To quote Heather McNamara: did that sound bitchy?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/31 "2010-08-15T15:20:37Z")

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Why is this guy still here? I mean, honestly, do we really need one of these bizarre stream-of-consciousness crazy-talk rants every week?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/32 "2010-08-15T15:25:08Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Why is this guy still here? I mean, honestly, do we really need one of these bizarre stream-of-consciousness crazy-talk rants every week?

I know! He’s stealing the limelight from **gonzomax**!

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/33 "2010-08-15T15:58:58Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Why is this guy still here? I mean, honestly, do we really need one of these bizarre stream-of-consciousness crazy-talk rants every week?

You should know by now that the SDMB mods are very lenient when it comes to actually out-and-out trolling and are much more hardline on things they perceive that run afoul of the “Don’t be a jerk” rule.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/34 "2010-08-15T16:31:34Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Didn’t LG used to have posts than this? It’s really reading like conspiracy nonsense now, but I could have sworn he used to be a valuable (if infrequent) contributor.
> 
> I’m honestly worried about him. (Granted, just a little.)

Looking at his posting history he seems to have always talked much like this. Perhaps you are thinking of **Lurking Horror**?

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/35 "2010-08-15T16:40:21Z")

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> [@PlainJain](#):
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> > [@Kyla](#):
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> > I’m going to hazard a guess that the only thing this message board can agree on is that you are the single worst post-writer EVER.
> > 
> > Not the content. This MB has had racists, sexists, Cesario, and Jack Dean Tyler.
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> > It’s your formatting and way of expressing yourself. Jesus christ it’s terrible.
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> > Learn to write.
> 
> So you actually get the point of the OP? Dude, you are way ahead of me. I do agree she/he/it (shit?) is the worst at formatting.
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> OP, can you summarize your rant into one coherant sentence for me? Seriously I’m just not getting anything except you hate everyone who has guns, control and money.

Oh no, I don’t understand the content either. But in the past, when people have criticized **LG** ’s writing, s/he has taken it as a disagreement with his/her content, and to be fair, since I can’t figure out what s/he is going on about, I really can’t criticize it. It might be really smart.

But I doubt it, since I feel like someone really smart could put together a more coherent rant.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/36 "2010-08-15T16:44:41Z")

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I know someone who is schizophrenic and he says that sometimes the thoughts and voices in his head become too much and he just has to get some of it out. I’ve told him he makes no sense and he said he knows but he just has to get it out, so he blogs and goes to various websites and writes thing very similar to Lurking Guest, even in the same format.

I don’t think he is a troll, I think he’s seriously mentally ill.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/37 "2010-08-15T16:45:54Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > Didn’t LG used to have posts than this? It’s really reading like conspiracy nonsense now, but I could have sworn he used to be a valuable (if infrequent) contributor.
> > 
> > I’m honestly worried about him. (Granted, just a little.)
> 
> Looking at his posting history he seems to have always talked much like this. Perhaps you are thinking of **Lurking Horror**?

Or Angry Lurker?

P.S. I’m on vacation, and can’t work up the energy to indulge in my usual LG-poking. You all will have to carry this one without me.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/38 "2010-08-15T16:47:39Z")

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Nurse, he’s out of bed again!

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/39 "2010-08-15T17:04:23Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> I know someone who is schizophrenic and he says that sometimes the thoughts and voices in his head become too much and he just has to get some of it out. I’ve told him he makes no sense and he said he knows but he just has to get it out, so he blogs and goes to various websites and writes thing very similar to Lurking Guest, even in the same format.
> 
> I don’t think he is a troll, I think he’s seriously mentally ill.

Serious question, even during his ‘getting it out’ phase is he able to answer questions coherently?

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-all-just-agree/550309/40 "2010-08-15T17:18:07Z")

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> [@PlainJain](#):
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> > [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> > I know someone who is schizophrenic and he says that sometimes the thoughts and voices in his head become too much and he just has to get some of it out. I’ve told him he makes no sense and he said he knows but he just has to get it out, so he blogs and goes to various websites and writes thing very similar to Lurking Guest, even in the same format.
> > 
> > I don’t think he is a troll, I think he’s seriously mentally ill.
> 
> Serious question, even during his ‘getting it out’ phase is he able to answer questions coherently?

No not really.

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