# Can we finally get some clarification on what's "misogynistic" and off-limits now? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 1, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244 "2013-05-01T19:55:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/81 "2013-05-02T06:01:36Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > What, specifically, do I not “get”? Two things. First, you seem to think that this is a double standards issue. That the problem is that men are being oppressed and women are being let off. That’s not the problem here. The problem is not that men are being told they can’t tell sex jokes and it wouldn’t be solved by saying that women can’t tell sex jokes either. The problem is that anyone is being told that sex jokes are off limits. Second, you seem to feel there are some sexual comments that are not offensive because they’re “complementary”. Saying a woman is good looking and you’d like to fuck her is just as offensive as saying a woman is too ugly to fuck. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/82 "2013-05-02T06:05:38Z")
Idle Thoughts, thank you for sharing your comments. A question or two… Do you think the comments twix moderated were derailing a serious discussion? Do you think the topic of that thread was a serious topic? Do you think the comments modded were misogynistic? As a woman I bristle at true misogyny on this board leveled at other posters but the sophomoric titty humor doesn’t really bother me. I understand that there is going to be a feeling out period, but is it really that hard to distinguish between comments aimed at posters vs those made at women at rallies and is it that tough to distinguish between misogyny and the immature-ish poop, pee, fart, titty, dick jokes? . ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/83 "2013-05-02T06:09:39Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > To close, the mods are currently discussing it again, for the record. Then for what it’s worth, let me make a suggestion. Let’s be like the Supreme Court and establish a checklist to test whether a post with sexual references needs to be moderated: 1. Is it directed at another poster on this board? 2. Is it directed at a broad category of people rather than a specific individual? 3. Is it a sexual comment in a thread with a non-sexual topic? 4. Is it a sexual joke in a thread on a serious sexual topic? If the answer to all of these questions is no, then I suggest the post doesn’t need to be moderated. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/84 "2013-05-02T06:17:48Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > **FinnAgain** , a lot of your points in that post can be summed up with one answer: First, I disagree with this. Secondly, how about the points that it doesn’t address (which is actually most of them). FinnAgain, excellent post btw. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/85 "2013-05-02T06:31:44Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > All I can do is say again that–admittedly–there may be some overhanded or uncalled for modding sometimes while common ground is found and an “easy medium” is eventually made when it comes to what is and is not allowed. Well, you could also address the fact that I provided quotes where you pretty much said that this is not the same old no-hijacking policy. Or that you did in fact say, explicitly, that posters’ dislike of/lack of comfort with certain statements was why mods were cracking down on those types of statements. I mean, if we can’t have a discussion about this in a straightforward manner, and we all have to pretend that this is _really_ about the no-hijacking rule, then we might as well just quit now because the gods themselves contend in vain with such semantic gaming. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > First, you seem to think that this is a double standards issue. That the problem is that men are being oppressed and women are being let off. You’re conflating disparate facts. First, it is a double standards issue since the only drive is to ‘protect’ women from being offended. Second, nobody is being “oppressed”, and the real problem is that it’s an awful policy and not merely that it’s a double standard. Although, of course, it is a double standard. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Second, you seem to feel there are some sexual comments that are not offensive because they’re “complementary”. Saying a woman is good looking and you’d like to fuck her is just as offensive as saying a woman is too ugly to fuck. Of course Offenderati can find just about anything to be offended about. But no, I’d wager you can’t come up with any metric with even a passing resemblance to rationality whereby a woman or a man telling someone of the opposite sex that they’re sexually appealing is, _necessarily_, offensive. _At the risk of belaboring the obvious, some women and men enjoy being hit on in an explicit manner._ And some enjoy the same semantic content put across a bit more subtly. That puts paid to the claim that compliments of a sexual nature are somehow universally offensive. As for the idea that I just don’t “get” your position, I understand it perfectly. It just happens to be wildly wrong. Find me one woman on the planet who reacts to her partner telling her “Darling you look at beautiful as the day I met you, kiss me!” the same as she would if he said “You ugly cow, I can’t believe I ever stayed with you, you disgust me!” .. well, find me that woman, and I will show you a raving lunatic. But maybe that’s my problem, maybe having taken to dating sane women recently has skewed my perceptions. The women I tend to date? If I said “Hey, you look awesome!” their response would be something like “thanks!” and not “You fucking sexist pig, I hate you!!!” (Can’t say enough about the benefits of dating sane people… ) No, I “get” the position quite well. It’s puritanical in a particularly unpalatable fashion. It’s sex-negative in a rather unhealthy manner. It’s quixotically dictatorial as it attempts removes agency and personal choice from individual human relationships and attempts to enforce what is and is not offensive or attractive to disparate people. I get it, I just don’t agree with it, due to how awful and wrong it is. But yes, I get it just fine. This is, luckily, not one of those issues where understanding a position means one agrees with it. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/86 "2013-05-02T07:03:41Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > No, I “get” the position quite well. It’s puritanical in a particularly unpalatable fashion. It’s sex-negative in a rather unhealthy manner. It’s quixotically dictatorial as it attempts removes agency and personal choice from individual human relationships and attempts to enforce what is and is not offensive or attractive to disparate people. I get it, I just don’t agree with it, due to how awful and wrong it is. But yes, I get it just fine. > > This is, luckily, not one of those issues where understanding a position means one agrees with it. Excellent post again, completely bullshit moderation, and I’m bloody offended at how a small, vocal minority have managed to get TPTB to enforce their position. What’s worse is that the mods refused to participate in or resolve the earlier threads on these issues. Slightly unrelated observation: This pandering to vocal minorities is pretty representative of how much public policy gets made. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/87 "2013-05-02T07:17:00Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > All I can do is say again that–admittedly–there may be some overhanded or uncalled for modding sometimes while common ground is found and an “easy medium” is eventually made when it comes to what is and is not allowed. Some? Sometimes? Other than the “sorority email rant” thread and the “crucifix-pubed pope” thread, has there been any other incidence of so-called misogyny moderation? Because, if those are the only two examples of such moderation since the uproar, a few things become pretty clear: - There really is no pervasive misogyny problem deserving of changes to the already broad moderating and posting guidelines. - There is currently a “Red Scare” like atmosphere where some people are so eager to identify and root-out the “rampant” misogyny, that they are starting to imagine it where it doesn’t actually exist. - ^^^ Or, some people are simply using the mania as a convenient excuse to stifle speech or speakers that they dislike or disagree with. (which is even worse) - Instead of attempting to “moderate” this mania, the people in power are either pandering to it and encouraging it, or else falling victim to it themselves by letting their imagination see it where it does not exist. - If there is a desire to curtail the occasional \*\*actual \*\* incidents of misogyny, the current irrational, over-reactive approach is 180-degrees counterproductive to the goal of getting people to understand, acknowledge and cooperate to alleviate any legitimate concerns. Consider picking MUCH, MUCH more clear examples of misogyny - it should be easy if the problem is remotely as pervasive as the furor has portrayed it to be. As it is, I don’t think you could have picked two \*worse \*examples of “misogyny” to make into the case law. (All that said, I do appreciate hearing at least some mods’ unvarnished, pre-mod-loop-consensus opinions, with at least some acknowledgment of the stated concerns.) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/88 "2013-05-02T07:39:52Z")
I praise the moderators for not handing out warnings in the OP’s linked thread. Kudos. I am not bent out of shape by attempts at calibration, if that is what they are. > [@Giraffe](#): > > Perhaps the policy against misogynistic comments could be restricted to posts directed at other posters? That seems like a fairly straightforward policy to define and apply. Something like: “Please keep personal comments directed at other posters respectful outside of the Pit; unsolicited commentary about another poster’s gender, race or sexuality may be subject to moderation.” This is a pretty good proposal, I think. Back in the neighborhood, if you told a guy, “Hey, bend over and drop trousers: I want to see your sphincter: I think you’ll like that,” you would be at risk of requiring extensive dental work. Similarly, you didn’t ask to view a woman’s genitals or secondary sex characteristics in the public square if you didn’t care for promptly delivered knuckle sandwiches. It just wasn’t done. I think we can have similar guidelines in most forums here. That’s a pretty bright and rather enforceable line, methinks. ## Does anybody want to go beyond that though? I think the Giraffe proposal merits additional attention. **I go a little beyond** Also, can we agree that some of the humor in the OP’s linked thread was retarded? There’s a newspaper article about a nudist incident and somebody says, “Pics or it didn’t happen!” Hilarious and I mean that sarcastically! That joke was old (i.e. bad) when they were drawing antelope in caves, never mind after the advent of digital photography. ## Now I recognize that some posters like to act like dirty old men in trench coats with impulse control issues. There should be scope for that. But there should _also_ be tolerance for lobbing Mr. Rolly at those sorts of remarks. And if a poster says, “Hey, don’t get sand in your nether regions”, well that violates the Good Neighbor Guideline for Anatomical Evaluations. Which warrants a warning after a suitable phase in period. I see that **Little Nemo** expanded Giraffe’s criteria as well. A fine and constructive effort. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/89 "2013-05-02T10:08:49Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Of course Offenderati can find just about anything to be offended about. Because, of course, if someone says they’re offended it’s always and necessarily because they’re “Offenderati”, rather than because their feelings have been hurt. In fact, people don’t really have feelings and even if they do, it’s impossible to genuinely hurt them. No one, in fact, has ever been truly upset, or angry, or ashamed because of what other people say to or about them, ever. They just make it up. Or alternatively, maybe there are some Truly Offended, whose feelings we need to take into account. Maybe they use the same words as Offenderati, but the Chosen Few can, after much meditation on the Secret Way, tell the Truly Offended from the Offenderati. Tell us, oh wise one, what is the secret? > [@](#): > > As for the idea that I just don’t “get” your position, I understand it perfectly. It just happens to be wildly wrong. Find me one woman on the planet who reacts to **her partner** telling her “Darling you look at beautiful as the day I met you, kiss me!” the same as she would if he said “You ugly cow, I can’t believe I ever stayed with you, you disgust me!” .. well, find me that woman, and I will show you a raving lunatic. (Bolding mine) Wait what? When did this become a conversation about what partners say to each other? Why are you talking about this? If you want to hear from women who are genuinely offended at \*\*strangers \*\*or \*\*acquaintances \*\*talking “positively” about their looks (you know, something actually germane to this conversation), I can show you thousands. (You could also read, and try to believe, the women of the Dope who have said this explicitly, mind). www.everydaysexism.com was set up in the UK a year ago; it simply asks women to tell the stories of when they have faced sexism (or misogyny) in ordinary everyday situations. The volume of responses has been astonishing; what women have to say was, for me, eye-opening and distressing. Or was it really? No-one else can tell, but maybe you can let everyone know if I really was upset to find out that life for many women is full of incidents like this: > [@](#): > > "Of all things, today I had to take a drug test for a summer catering job. I hopped on my loyal steed, and biked my full bladder up to the occupational health clinic. > > As I was peeling off my sweaty layers and pulling my helmet off, I opened the doors of the waiting room to find a 20 man construction crew, in all their reflective vested glory, waiting to complete their urinary deposits. It was only 8:30 in the morning. > > I found an empty seat and sat down, digging in my purse, avoiding eye contact. I though of all the times I’ve been the only girl in a group of men, like at work, or at the gym. I tend to enjoy hanging out with groups of guys. I like to tell bad jokes, and shoot the breeze, and mostly that goes over really well. > > To clear the air, I said something along the lines of, “So, you guys are all here, it looks like!” > > The response I got? ”Oh, we all trying to go to where the hot girls are. And here we are.” > > It was 8:30 in the morning. I had just biked 6 miles to a hospital clinic to pee in a cup for a stupid catering job, only to walk in and become eye candy for a bunch of dudes. Then, when I try to make polite conversation, the first thing out of this man’s mouth is a reference to my HOTNESS. > > I AM SO TIRED OF THIS. I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH SINCE I WAS FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. Just in case you think I’m overreacting, here’s a short list of similar incidents that happened over the last 48 hours. > > “Get your good lookin’ self over here.” (One of the hired movers while I was helping a friend’s mom move her stuff.) > > “You got a good tan.” (Same guy, who then proceeds to stroke my upper arm with the backs of his fingers.) > > “WOOOOO!” (Passing car crammed with boys as I and a friend walk downtown.) > > A suggestive, directed pucker of the lips out of the cab of a pickup, as I’m ON MY WAY TO THE AFOREMENTIONED CLINIC ON MY BIKE. > > People wonder why I can be a little “cold.” Wouldn’t you be if you grew up with this kind of “attention?” These kinds of “compliments?” Women’s bodies do NOT, actually, exist to be evaluated, judged, and approved of by men (and other women.) Men do not have the right to do that. > > Since I was 15 years old, I’ve had to hear about what other men thought of my appearance. Men on the street would slow down their cars to follow me as I walked home. The boys in class would tell me how nice and big my curves were getting. A man slapped me on the rear,in the middle of the street, and walked away with a “yeah girl!” > > I’m 29 now. When I walked into that waiting room, I wanted to run. > [@](#): > > “Around Christmas a few years ago I was at a gas station that I went to regularly. While paying, the clerk, a man much older than me, started chatting me up saying “Oh, look, it’s the prettiest redhead in town!” I smiled to be polite but it still made me uncomfortable. As I was leaving he told me “Hey, come back this weekend, Santa will be here and you can sit on his lap.” Ok, weird, I’m an adult, but I didn’t think anything about it until a few minutes later when I realized that this fat old man would be the one in the Santa suit. I stopped going to that gas station unless I drove by first and saw that he wasn’t working. I still feel disgusted when I think about it.” > [@](#): > > "Ever since moving to NYC two and a half years ago I have been subjected to cat calling at an ever increasing level. Many times the man is alone and mutters under his breath, “Hey, beautiful,” “I’d like to take you home” or something equally disgusting. I have begun to speak up for myself in a firm, yet polite, manner and make an effort to remind each man that I am a HUMAN BEING who deserves respect, regardless of my sex. It is upsetting to realize that I do not always feel safe enough to speak up and need to evaluate every instance on a case by case basis. " > [@](#): > > “I come into work every day & my appearance is constantly commented on; I dress very differently and also carry myself very differently than I used to. I find myself doing everything / anything I can to avoid this. Ultimately, I am unsuccessful day after day. I find it indescribably disempowering & am left wondering what _I_ can do to change this. I am made to feel like I bring this upon myself. When truly frustrated to the point of tears of feeling so helpless, I am made to feel like I am overreacting or I am too sensitive. When thinking about my career & future in the workforce, I am heartbroken by the reality idea that this could very well be how it will always be for me…” > [@](#): > > “I was standing, talking to two friends, wearing a t-shirt and shorts, with my hair pulled up. I was not holding anything or doing anything of note. The male friend told me I looked “like a hot housewife.” Why? The only thing I was doing was standing there, being female. And somehow that’s what he saw.” > [@](#): > > "After a long day of graduate school, I took myself to my favorite pub to decompress with dinner and a beer. When I left and was headed to my car, there were two men standing on top of a building adjacent to the lot. I glanced up and continued walking, thinking nothing of it. One of them looked down at me and shouted “Hey, sexy!” Normally I ignore this kind of behavior, but this particular day I was mentally exhausted and fed up. I looked up and gave both men the finger. They laughed and said, "Oh, she must be having a bad day. > > Yes. Because I would have to be having a bad day not to enjoy being objectified. I would have to be having a bad day to not “take it as a compliment”. I totally forgot that those kinds of gestures are supposed to make me swoon. #sarcasm" > [@](#): > > “I am so scared to lose weight because ever since I put on 10 pounds, less and less guys want to grab at me and cat call me. I pretty much feel like my options are stay unhealthy, or possibly get raped.” It took me less than ten minutes to find those quotes. And they’re jsut from the US version of the site, to avoid any suggestion of cultural barriers. As far as I can see, “compliments” like this really do upset women. And it seems perverse to pretend they don’t. Or at least that’s my take on it. But just to help me out, perhaps you could show me which of these quotes come from a “raving lunatic”. Or give me some other reason to dismiss these experiences. Perhaps these women are lying about the way this makes them feel? Or perhaps they are being honest, but they’re just irrational - and basically wrong - to feel that way? ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/90 "2013-05-02T10:14:52Z")
For men who are interested - and I genuinely recommend this - the Everyday Sexism twitter feed will give you a (new) insight into what women have to deal with day in, day out. [@everydaysexism](https://twitter.com/EverydaySexism) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/91 "2013-05-02T10:52:08Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Of course Offenderati can find just about anything to be offended about. …this thread right here being exhibit A. I’ve never seen so many people wanting to take their balls and go home over such a trivial issue. Seriously, being kept from saying crude things about a woman you don’t know causes you such vapors? The solution isn’t for the mods to mollify your absurd worries about how you’ll never be able to tell a joke again; it’s for you to put the back of your hand on your forehead and wail, “Life is misery!” and then get over yourself. Measure for Measure presents a much more measured response, one I can get behind. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/92 "2013-05-02T11:22:08Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > For men who are interested - and I genuinely recommend this - the Everyday Sexism twitter feed will give you a (new) insight into what women have to deal with day in, day out. [@everydaysexism](https://twitter.com/EverydaySexism) Another ‘if it’s bad IRL, then let’s ban it here’. :rolleyes: No woman posting here **has** to deal with jokes they don’t like, there is a real easy solution for the problem. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/93 "2013-05-02T11:26:34Z")
As one of the posters moderated, I just wanna point out that I’ve learned my lesson. From now on, women who wear a pope hat, shave a cross into their pubes, and parade bottomless whilst handing out rubbers, will be afforded all the dignity and respect their actions demand. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/94 "2013-05-02T11:30:02Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > Another ‘if it’s bad IRL, then let’s ban it here’. :rolleyes: No woman posting here **has** to deal with jokes they don’t like, there is a real easy solution for the problem. Oh good! What is it? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/95 "2013-05-02T11:51:47Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > To close, the mods are currently discussing it again, for the record. While you’re discussing it, perhaps you could also discuss this piece of moderation on your part. > [@I don't know what you're TRYING to do, but you're GOING to get yourself fired.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/39): > > > [@I don't know what you're TRYING to do, but you're GOING to get yourself fired.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/20): > > > > I’m afraid before I comment I’m going to need pictures of the young lady in question – in the skin-tight spandex and only a shirt as a dress, mandatory, but if you want to hook me up with the micro-mini and the sheer top, that would be okay too. > > Let’s try to avoid these types of comments in the future. In an MPSIMS thread in which the OP described the woman’s fashion choices as: > [@I don't know what you're TRYING to do, but you're GOING to get yourself fired.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/1): > > …a stretch pants so tight that no detail of sub-waistular topography was left uncertain, along with a top that was basically a 9-inch ribbon wrapped around her bosom, a ribbon that did jack-diggly to conceal the level of erectness of her nipples…a micro-mini and a top sheer enough that no one needed X-ray vision to see that freckles were not confined to her face… a football jersey as a dress… You’re going to have to tell me in what way **Jack Batty** ’s post was inappropriate in order for me to be able to even attempt to get a handle on what’s going on here. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/96 "2013-05-02T12:17:14Z")
No. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/97 "2013-05-02T12:17:32Z")
Oddly, I’m a little curious myself. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/98 "2013-05-02T12:51:38Z")
Then perhaps we can clear things up a little. [QUOTE=Idle Thoughts] **FinnAgain** , a lot of your points in that post can be summed up with one answer: The SDMB has always modded comments that could (or do) cause hijacks to topics. [/QUOTE] All that is needed is a brief explanation on how jokes about pantsless women in pope hats handing out condoms are a hijack, or might cause a hijack. Because God forbid a serious topic like that should get hijacked. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/99 "2013-05-02T13:05:34Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > All I can do is say again that–admittedly–there may be some overhanded or uncalled for modding sometimes while common ground is found and an “easy medium” is eventually made when it comes to what is and is not allowed. This new “rule” is too subjective to be applied consistently by the moderators, especially considering how much difficulty a couple of them have consistently applying the existing rules. On the other hand, if you guys keep narrowing what’s permitted here, it’ll soon be utterly unlike the board that drew us all here in the first place, and it’ll motivate us to find someplace else. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244/100 "2013-05-02T13:38:22Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > On the other hand, if you guys keep narrowing what’s permitted here, it’ll soon be utterly unlike the board that drew us all here in the first place, and it’ll motivate us to find someplace else. Balls? Home? Check. Given that plenty of women have already said that they’ve taken breaks from the board due to the ugly behavior of too many posters here, and that there are other women who didn’t say that because they’ve left permanently, my tiniest violin in the world will stay in its case. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-finally-get-some-clarification-on-whats-misogynistic-and-off-limits-now/657244.md?page=6)