# can we find non sleaze ball ads? (also feel free to share ones youve seen) **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 20, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646 "2018-09-20T18:01:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MarvinKitFox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@MarvinKitFox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarvinKitFox)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/21 "2018-09-22T12:46:49Z")
You want non-sleeze ads? you DO REALIZE that ad content is based on YOUR browsing and search history? ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/22 "2018-09-22T12:49:38Z")
I am always surprised by the suggestion that new visitors to the site should pay immediately for membership. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/23 "2018-09-22T17:37:47Z")
> [@MarvinKitFox](#): > > You want non-sleeze ads? > you DO REALIZE that ad content is based on YOUR browsing and search history? It doesn’t work that way. A clean browsing/search history does not prevent sleazy ads. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/24 "2018-09-22T17:39:03Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > I am always surprised by the suggestion that new visitors to the site should pay immediately for membership. Maybe first 20 posts free of ads. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/25 "2018-09-22T22:34:12Z")
I just log in at [boards.straightdope.com](http://boards.straightdope.com) and I don’t get any ads. I’m not a paid member, either. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/26 "2018-09-23T05:17:57Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > Maybe first 20 posts free of ads. Maybe all posts free of sleazy ads? ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/27 "2018-09-23T09:32:25Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > I am always surprised by the suggestion that new visitors to the site should pay immediately for membership. Advertisements are part of life, from television to magazines to Times Square. I choose my hard-earned dollars go to the coffers. New visitors can decide. Newcomers to explore and I welcome them to hang around. Me?I it is 20 USD is worth it. Your Millage May Vary. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/28 "2018-09-23T09:58:47Z")
heres a weird one [The sooner you know of a heatstroke, the better – Pilates & Yoga Fitness](http://pilatesandyogafitness.com/the-sooner-you-know-of-a-heatstroke-the-better/?utm_source=as-social&utm_campaign=2518&utm_medium=referral) … its esl made me chuckle but ironically after I made the op Ive been getting ads for mainstream stuff until the above ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/29 "2018-09-23T18:28:50Z")
> [@Cabin\_Fever](#): > > Advertisements are part of life, from television to magazines to Times Square. I choose my hard-earned dollars go to the coffers. New visitors can decide. > > Newcomers to explore and I welcome them to hang around. > > Me?I it is 20 USD is worth it. Your Millage May Vary. It is a unique approach to a Selling proposition to newcomers to have the idea of the Hostage taking experience as the selling point for the newcomer to become a member. A unique concept, maybe other businesses can try your idea - like if they walk into the shopping center not letting them out and bombarding them with the sleazy sales pitches. – in fact it is indeed the perfect metaphor, the late 1990s and the early 2000s look and approach of the shopping center frozen in time… They can thus sieze on the paying customer susceptible to the stockholm syndrome and reverse their delcine. I wonder why more busineses do not sieze on this unique idea of a selling process? ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/30 "2018-09-23T19:25:58Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > It is a unique approach to a Selling proposition to newcomers to have the idea of the Hostage taking experience as the selling point for the newcomer to become a member. > > A unique concept, maybe other businesses can try your idea - like if they walk into the shopping center not letting them out and bombarding them with the sleazy sales pitches. – in fact it is indeed the perfect metaphor, the late 1990s and the early 2000s look and approach of the shopping center frozen in time… > > They can thus sieze on the paying customer susceptible to the stockholm syndrome and reverse their delcine. > > I wonder why more busineses do not sieze on this unique idea of a selling process? I heartily agree with the Stockholm experience as I lurk here on and off most of my life. No reason than other than pure laziness, and I get to meet people from all over the world. (I am house-bound in case you are interested). Do you have any suggestions about keeping the SDMB afloat? I don’t mind the ads, I just choose to support an entity that I wish to continue.- ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/31 "2018-09-24T04:59:50Z")
Right, but don’t you think people might want to check out the place a bit before deciding whether or not a membership is worth it to them? And while there’s nothing wrong with ads, they shouldn’t be for sleazy porn sites. ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/32 "2018-09-24T12:26:45Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Right, but don’t you think people might want to check out the place a bit before deciding whether or not a membership is worth it to them? > > And while there’s nothing wrong with ads, they shouldn’t be for sleazy porn sites. No I doin’t. The sleazy ads i suffered through seem to be long gone thanks to another ad provider. I vote with my wallet, others I embrace with open arms. ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/33 "2018-09-29T15:56:19Z")
So, just as a test, I’ve had this site whitelisted on my PC since this topic was made, and to be honest the ad experience has been entirely benign. I mean, I haven’t felt any urges to click on them or anything (most of the ads I get are for the amazon kindle), but they haven’t been annoying at all. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/34 "2018-09-29T17:16:39Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > So, pay for a membership then. It’s not ridiculously expensive. This, for Pete’s sake! Just pay your minuscule share for a service you use and value. Geez Louise. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/35 "2018-09-29T17:22:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This, for Pete’s sake! Just pay your minuscule share for a service you use and value. Geez Louise. :smack: No The ratio of the guests to the members says exactly the market value. The idea that there is some obligation to become the paying member is ridiculous and grossly self defeating, just like the very stupid experiment of the pay to post. The grossly tone deaf attempt to member shame is of that same nature. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/36 "2018-09-29T17:40:57Z")
actually ive only gotten 1 of the ads I originally complained about since I made the op…and it was some news letter on how trump was gonna send Hillary to jail because of secret tapes and they had “the truth”……… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/37 "2018-09-29T17:44:01Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > No > > The ratio of the guests to the members says exactly the market value. > > The idea that there is some obligation to become the paying member is ridiculous and grossly self defeating, just like the very stupid experiment of the pay to post. > > The grossly tone deaf attempt to member shame is of that same nature. There is no OBLIGATION. If there were an obligation, then you wouldn’t be reading this. It’s the right thing to do. You use the service. You value it. SOMEONE is paying for it–you realize that, right? You should be a grownup and pay your share. It’s the grossly tone-deaf refusal to hear the correctness of what I’m saying that’s causing the shameful feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/38 "2018-09-29T18:15:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > There is no OBLIGATION. If there were an obligation, then you wouldn’t be reading this. It’s the right thing to do. You use the service. You value it. SOMEONE is paying for it–you realize that, right? You should be a grownup and pay your share. It’s the grossly tone-deaf refusal to hear the correctness of what I’m saying that’s causing the shameful feelings. Non. Your boring scolding interventions with the finger waiving arising from some strange confusion of the value you assign with what others percieve are things mostly useless. There is no “grown up” paying a share, there is a proposition and the free market, and if the proposition is not convincing enough to motivate the direct payment, then it has to find the other ways. the ratio of the payers to the non payers says exactly what a market value is for the service. So then like the television, it needs the other revenue as the size of that market seeing value in payment is not big enough. That is the grown-up, as you say it, analysis. The ‘correctness’ you perceieve is a self déception and ascribing of your value on to the others, who have no obligation at all to share it. So the board to survive is not to engage in the silly pointless and self-harming scolding approach but needs to find the way to address the current market, to address the ways the current market has changed and the new expectations or it dies. The useful observation of those who have now white listed and say that the advertising no longer is what it was before, that can help - the change in the market perception is difficult which is why the mismanagements of this Board from the pay-to-post to the self-harming refusal to modernise and to address the years longs complaints is an illustration of the difficulty of the changing of the market perception once a negative one has been created. Maybe I may try to trust the site non logged in now. Maybe. The useful suggestions in the suggestions of improvements thread on the minor revisions of the format (the avaters, a step, the search function improvement another, the interaction tools other than the posts, another possibility, other suggestions on the look: the free offers to assist in the development of a modernised look and the templates not broken and badly made as in the mismanagement era, these are useful things if the Board is not to whither like the stubborn mismanaged Retailer that insists on its old classic products are the Right Thing and the Right Value… and the scolding of the window shopper who is not any more seduced by the Classic Product, that is the nice road to failure. These window shoppers, they have not one obligation to this Business (Board). Not one and so the grown-up as you say it approach to not failure of the business is to change to meet the market, to meet the potential customer feedbacks. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/39 "2018-09-29T18:25:07Z")
You’re spending more than $15 worth of energy defending your untenable position. But have at it. I’m outta here. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646/40 "2018-09-29T19:14:11Z")
There is no money spent in this and to be a member or not has not a thing to do with the rational grown-up analysis of the economics of the business and its position. The only untenablity is the self deception of the belief that there is any obligation for any single person to pay here or that the value you place on this is something of the necessity shared by many others - indeed the ratios of the paying to the non paying say it is not, and that very clearly. So the scolding has only the negative value. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-find-non-sleaze-ball-ads-also-feel-free-to-share-ones-youve-seen/821646.md?page=1)