# Can we please ban saggy pants?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038 "2010-11-01T01:52:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/41 "2010-11-01T15:18:35Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Bell bottoms?

No! Because on certain sexy lasses, bellbottoms still look good, if they are cut right. A shapely woman can indeed make them look good.

No one can make saggy pants look good. NO ONE.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/42 "2010-11-01T15:32:11Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about, as only the [JNCO Mammoth](http://www.flickr.com/photos/43121702@N05/3980051747/)’s had that much fabric (50" leg opening ftw!). I know, I own a pair; they rock. 😃

Well, if we’re going to talk something so subjective as fashion, i must say that i think those jeans look just as ridiculous as any saggy-waisted pants.

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/43 "2010-11-01T15:40:57Z")

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What do you think your parents thought of your style of dress when you were younger?

I remember dressing to say F^\*$ you to society at one point.

It’s just a phase and it’s not that serious.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/44 "2010-11-01T15:52:34Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> What do you think your parents thought of your style of dress when you were younger?
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> I remember dressing to say F^\*$ you to society at one point.
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> It’s just a phase and it’s not that serious.

Exactly. I don’t think i’ve ever seen anyone older that their early 20s in the baggy pants look.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/45 "2010-11-01T16:06:13Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Well, if we’re going to talk something so subjective as fashion, i must say that i think those jeans look just as ridiculous as any saggy-waisted pants.

I disagree. Saggy pants just look kind of dumb, or like the wearer can’t afford anything else, so he’s making do with hand-me-downs or whatever he can find to wear.

The Mammoths look awesome because they are designed to look ridiculous. They are purposefully meant to make people look at you and go “wtf?”. And when I wear them onstage, flailing at my guitar like I was trying to kill the demon ensconced within while simultaneously stomping out the beat, no one can take their eyes off me. I don’t look like anything or anyone they’ve ever seen before. People _remember_ that image; can’t get it out of their head.

Plus, chicks dig them. 😉

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/46 "2010-11-01T16:07:15Z")

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> [@Box\_A\_Rox](#):
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> As a fashion statement, Baggy Pants are a disaster, but the Baggy Pants Trend does have one very redeeming value…
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> On Saturday Night at 8pm, tune in to “COPS”, and you’ll see that Baggy Pants are as valuable to police as a nightstick.  
> Every time the COPS team stops a car… the occupants, usually athletic young men, bail out of the car, Baggy Pants sagging, and run for it.  
> The 40 year old, beer bellied, out of shape COPS have no chance of catching these young men, if it weren’t for their Baggy Pants tripping the criminals.
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> Handcuffs, nightstick, tazer, and Baggy Pants… are COPS best friends!  
> ~

That’s exactly what I was thinking.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/47 "2010-11-01T16:23:38Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The Mammoths look awesome because they are designed to look ridiculous. They are purposefully meant to make people look at you and go “wtf?”. And when I wear them onstage, flailing at my guitar like I was trying to kill the demon ensconced within while simultaneously stomping out the beat, no one can take their eyes off me. I don’t look like anything or anyone they’ve ever seen before. People _remember_ that image; can’t get it out of their head.
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> Plus, chicks dig them. 😉

I don’t doubt that they have a certain stage presence, if you’re flailing a guitar. But then again, so do assless chaps or 80s-style hair. But wear them on the street, and it doesn’t matter to me that they are _designed_ to look ridiculous; they simply look ridiculous. Like saggy pants.

And i’ll bet that plenty of chicks dig the saggy pants, too. I’ve seen plenty of saggy pants guys with hot girlfriends.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/48 "2010-11-01T16:31:11Z")

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I’m thirty-four and I can remember a time before the sagging pants were in style. I’ve also seen that sagging pants have changed over the years. It used to be that the pants just sagged a bit with the belt resting very low by definitely over the ass crack. You could see their boxers and the individual with the sagging pants could walk about normally without having to pull his pants up regularly. These days it’s not unusual to see someone in my neighborhood walking around with sagging pants below his ass. I’ve seen kids with their pants hanging below their ass somehow suspended there with a belt (sewn to their shirts or boxers as someone previously mentioned perhaps). It’s more common to see someone with sagging pants walking down the street with one hand on his crotch to keep his pants for falling all the way down though.

As for banning them, why? Let 'em wear their pants that way if they want. I think it’s silly looking but it doesn’t bother me all that much.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/49 "2010-11-01T18:09:33Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You mean Texas “ample”, that is to say, a bit smaller than a billiard ball?

Yeah, not anything weird. I’m not walking around with slow-pitch softballs down there (is that why people wear jodhpurs?)

If you’re just talking about banning these pants from fashion, go ahead. The fashion police will write unenforceable citations for the rest of my ensemble as well. Everyone looks like a nitwit, anyway. I’m just trying to get from the house to the car and back again without being uncomfortable, singled out for ridicule by passerby, or arrested.

What’s the pocket space like on those JNCOs? They’ve been around for about 10 years, I should probably try a pair.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/50 "2010-11-01T18:21:58Z")

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Add me to the old farts who think this look is beyond stupid, but appreciate being able to tell so easily who ain’t right (face/neck tattoos, facial piercings, and ear plugs also fit into this category).

Wearing your jeans below your bum - fail at understanding pants.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/51 "2010-11-01T18:36:47Z")

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The ‘fashion’ with TheKids’ male friends is to wear super tight low rise skinny jeans - with the back pulled down under the ass. Do not understand. The only positive I find in this style choice is that you know if the guy changes his drawers with regularity.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/52 "2010-11-01T19:07:49Z")

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There is a guy in one of my classes who does the skinny-jeans-under-the-ass thing. He apparently matches his drawers to his belt every day. It’s pretty funny, actually.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/53 "2010-11-01T19:11:33Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> What’s the pocket space like on those JNCOs? They’ve been around for about 10 years, I should probably try a pair.

Actually, JNCO’s have been gone for about 7 years now, at least in the awesome big leg/big pocket styles. But back in the day, brother, lemme tell ya, the pockets were the best part! They were so big, you didn’t sit your ass down on your wallet. You could put a liter bottle in them and still have room for more. I was the envy of everyone at work, as I could carry 10 full size blueprints in my pocket, plus all the paperwork for the rig. Ah, how I love them! I’m so glad I bought every pair I could find for years and years. I have over 80 pairs of JNCO shorts and about 20 pairs of pants. JNCO FOREVER! (At least for me!) 😃

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/54 "2010-11-01T20:18:22Z")

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> [@thirdname](#):
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> This as been discussed here before, but what surprises me is that that look is still going. It’s been almost 20 years. Shouldn’t it have gone out of style?

I hated this fashion back in 1970 when the surfers did it. They would walk around with their jeans or shorts down so low they had to hold on with one hand at all times. As long as it will irritate an adult it will continue. If we adults want it to stop then we are going to have to start wearing our pants that way. It should take about 10 minutes.

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**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/55 "2010-11-01T23:49:40Z")

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I cut-down your quote:

> [@Box\_A\_Rox](#):
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> The 40 year old, beer bellied, out of shape COPS have no chance of catching these young men, if it weren’t for their Baggy Pants tripping the criminals.  
> Handcuffs, nightstick, tazer, and Baggy Pants… are COPS best friends!  
> ~

One of the funniest things I’ve seen in a long time was the Idiot who was running from the Police, got to a Wooded area, bailed out and ran through the Woods (at night wearing those shoes with the lights in the Heels!). The Cops just tracked him with a Chopper and hooked him up when he came out, it was beautiful!

Unclviny

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/56 "2010-11-03T00:06:56Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> Yeah, not anything weird. I’m not walking around with slow-pitch softballs down there (is that why people wear jodhpurs?)
> 
> If you’re just talking about banning these pants from fashion, go ahead. The fashion police will write unenforceable citations for the rest of my ensemble as well. Everyone looks like a nitwit, anyway. I’m just trying to get from the house to the car and back again without being uncomfortable, singled out for ridicule by passerby, or arrested.
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> What’s the pocket space like on those JNCOs? They’ve been around for about 10 years, I should probably try a pair.

Okay, who edited the Wiki article for jodhpurs to say “Jodhpurs in their modern form are smoking hot tight-fitting trousers that reach to the ankle”?

The page has already been fixed but Google still says ‘smoking hot’.

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**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/57 "2010-11-03T01:43:48Z")

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As a teacher (and substitute), I’ve read the dress code of 5 different school districts. All have cited saggy pants and being against the dress code, but it’s Hell to enforce.

When I have a student wearing his pants in this style, walking about to try and shock the young ladies (more like disgust), I walk up to him in a kindly, avuncular style and just loud enough for him and the offended students to hear, I tell him, “Son, your panties are showing.” The pants get pulled up real quick after that.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/58 "2010-11-03T01:58:38Z")

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I came into this thread hoping I had stumbled upon a zombie from 1995.

Really dude? Saggy pants is your rant? I suppose next you’ll be bitching about that newfangled hip-hop devil music the kids these days listen to.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/59 "2010-11-03T20:46:00Z")

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I like seeing people do these things. It gives me a good laugh watching them TRY to run for the bus 😃

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-ban-saggy-pants/559038/60 "2010-11-03T21:32:55Z")

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Is this even still a style?

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