# Can we please not call Joseph Rosenbaum a "hero"? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 20, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657 "2021-11-20T04:15:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/101 "2021-11-26T17:29:11Z")
It’s black friday, surely you could be in California for some bring a crowbar and get a 100% off jewelry shopping. That’s part of the anarchy that’s incentivized, much like the riots of the summer, by pro crime Democrats. Now, police brutality has no place in society however to say that billions of dollars of left wing political violence damage is exaggerated isn’t believed by anyone. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/102 "2021-11-26T17:31:30Z")
When papers that lean left start calling out the loons on the ‘progressive’ left you know the narrative that the progressive trolls on this forum perpetuate is obviously fictitious. I’d worry more about the moderates who you folks are losing by the minute than I’d worry about the imaginary authoritarian octopuses of the world. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/103 "2021-11-26T17:33:03Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > That’s part of the anarchy that’s incentivized, much like the riots of the summer, by pro crime Democrats. Now, police brutality has no place in society however to say that billions of dollars of left wing political violence damage is exaggerated isn’t believed by anyone. See, its quotes like this that expose you for the authoritarian tool that you really are. Claiming that Democrats are “pro-crime” becuase they are against police brutality. You really should be ashamed of yourself, and the fascist regime you are desperately trying to usher in, but I know that you are not, and in fact take great pride in the hate that you spread. Anyway, I had you on ignore for 2 months, I don’t know why I bothered, but discourse had that option, so I tried it out. I enjoyed those 2 months missing your manifestos of hate, and I think I’ll go ahead and make it permanent this time. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/104 "2021-11-26T17:34:49Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s black friday, surely you could be in California for some bring a crowbar and get a 100% off jewelry shopping. Look at you, falsely accusing yet another person of criminality to support your far-right authoritarian agenda. You have quite a long history of doing that. But thank you for amply making my point for me. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/105 "2021-11-26T19:56:23Z")
The funny thing about reality is that attempts to redefine or ignore it don’t actually change it. Pointing out that one can be anti-police brutality while also against the Dems support of the felonious demographic is not a manifesto of hate. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/106 "2021-11-26T20:05:13Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > {…} felonious demographic {…} Nice way to say what you really mean . . . Black people. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/107 "2021-11-26T20:51:24Z")
Yes, but unfortnalty, you are not capable of saying anything without lying. You should look into that, maybe you’d be a little less of an authoritarian supporting piece of shit. Anyway, I’ve got you on ignore now, so tell all the lies you want, just don’t think that anyone actually believes anything you say, or that you contribute anything useful. Here or in your life, the world unequivocally would be a better place if you were not a part of it. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/108 "2021-11-26T23:28:41Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Nice way to say what you really mean . . . Black people. Fascinating Rorschach test results. You see felonious and think black, it’s an adjective not a proper noun, I see felonious and I think one who commits a felony. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Yes, but unfortnalty, you are not capable of saying anything without lying. > > You should look into that, maybe you’d be a little less of an authoritarian supporting piece of shit. > > Anyway, I’ve got you on ignore now, so tell all the lies you want, just don’t think that anyone actually believes anything you say, or that you contribute anything useful. Here or in your life, the world unequivocally would be a better place if you were not a part of it. My irony meter just broke. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/109 "2021-11-26T23:48:20Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Fascinating Rorschach test results. You see felonious and think black, it’s an adjective not a proper noun, I see felonious and I think one who commits a felony. {…} Right, that’s why you always talk about BLM protests as riots and only say anything about the Jan. 6 riot when pressed. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/110 "2021-11-26T23:54:56Z")
Lying sack of shit says what? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/111 "2021-11-26T23:58:34Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > {… } it’s an adjective not a proper noun {…} BTW Racist says what? ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/112 "2021-11-27T00:46:22Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > You mean he’s going to have to do a bunch of working to pay off the wrongful death settlements against him? I really don’t understand what you are saying here. Lol no, Rittenhouse isn’t wealthy(yet) so suing him would be fruitless. Huber’s parents have opted to sue the city of Kenosha. I’m talking about Rittenhouse suing news media for defamation like Sandman did. There is also speculation he could sue politicians: [Can Kyle Rittenhouse Sue Joe Biden For Defamation?](https://www.newsweek.com/kyle-rittenhouse-sue-joe-biden-defamation-1653288?amp=1) > [@](#): > > What makes you suspect this? Is there any reason whatsoever, other than it would be convenient to a narrative that you have imagined? This statement is dishonest at worst or uninformed at best. The left’s position on what has happened in Wisconsin has been narrative and not fact driven from the beginning. That being said, you shouldn’t be accusing other people of having convenient narratives. > **[Darrell Brooks shared pro-Hitler memes, called for violence against white people](https://nypost.com/2021/11/24/darrell-brooks-called-for-violence-against-white-people/)** > > Darrell Brooks Jr. — who has a decades-long rap sheet — shared a series of disturbing memes and messages on social media, most of which have since been deleted since his arrest Of course he did make pro Hitler statements, so I suppose you could always call Brooks a white suprmecist like you guys do everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/113 "2021-11-27T01:07:28Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > {…} There is also speculation he could sue politicians: [Kyle Rittenhouse could sue Joe Biden for defamation](https://www.newsweek.com/kyle-rittenhouse-sue-joe-biden-defamation-1653288?amp=1) {…} I’m guessing we’re supposed to not notice this part, > “First, it is very unlikely that the person who created the ad or tweeted it was Biden himself. Any lawsuit would need to be filed against the person or people who published it,” McQuade {_Barbara McQuade, a University of Michigan law professor and former U.S. attorney in Detroit_} said. > > “Second, a defamation case is unlikely to succeed here against any defendant. By inserting himself into the civil unrest in Kenosha, Rittenhouse voluntarily became a limited purpose public figure, which subjects defamation claims against him to the actual malice standard.” > > McQuade said in order for Rittenhouse to win a defamation suit, he would have to prove that the person who included the image of Rittenhouse in Biden’s video either knew that it was false or “acted with reckless disregard as to its truth.” ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/114 "2021-11-27T01:47:09Z")
You left out the part about Ayanna Pressley. I wonder why. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/115 "2021-11-27T01:49:48Z")
'Cause I don’t give even one fuck about her? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/116 "2021-11-27T03:04:05Z")
The real racists are those on the left who pander by claiming being able to add or read a clock are elements of the so-called white supremacy. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/117 "2021-11-27T03:07:18Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > There is also speculation he could sue politicians: [Kyle Rittenhouse could sue Joe Biden for defamation](https://www.newsweek.com/kyle-rittenhouse-sue-joe-biden-defamation-1653288?amp=1) Do you just completely lack the ability to critically evaluate media, or what? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/118 "2021-11-27T16:56:48Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Do you just completely lack the ability to critically evaluate media, or what? World’s greatest detective, this is not ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/119 "2021-11-28T00:13:45Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > World’s greatest detective, this is not No no, Bruce Wayne is just a billionaire playboy, what is this “detective” nonsense you’re going on about. 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-please-not-call-joseph-rosenbaum-a-hero/954657/120 "2021-12-14T18:10:46Z")
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