# Can we stop calling sex between different identical to human species bestiality? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 14, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865 "2015-08-14T19:55:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/81 "2015-08-17T06:47:46Z")
Um… Rape is a form of rape. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/82 "2015-08-17T10:19:35Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > P.S.: Consent from mute feral human female = she doesn’t try to bite your junk off. 😛 You could use that definition with your German Shepard. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/83 "2015-08-17T12:09:06Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > No, being with _another person_ means it’s not masturbation. Enjoyment and pleasure is totally irrelevant. Cite: oh so many marital situations. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/84 "2015-08-17T13:27:49Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Its not a form of rape, it _is_ rape. Rape has multiple forms. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/85 "2015-08-17T13:31:11Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Its not a form of rape, it _is_ rape. Is there any indication that Nova is not mentally competent? I don’t mean in our world, but in hers, sure she is mute but all humans are and yet they are surviving in the wilderness basically living as hunter gatherers and raiders of ape crops. And I’m pretty sure she would make clear to Taylor if she didn’t want to have sex. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/86 "2015-08-17T13:35:05Z")
NM ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/87 "2015-08-17T20:14:39Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Who says this? Who has called Star Trek’s Spock the result of “bestiality?” Who has said John Carter is practicing bestiality in his love for Dejah Thoris? > > You’re the only one I’ve ever heard use the word this way! I’ve heard it plenty of times over the last, oh, 40 years or so, usually from basement-dwelling fanboys/nerds/geeks with too much time on their hands. If we ever encounter intelligent, sapient beings from… wherever with compatible bodyparts we’ll have to address the issue. I am certain that there will be some humans screaming PERVERSION!!!, a few who will actively pursue such partners, and most of the rest of us will just get on with our lives. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/88 "2015-08-17T20:20:18Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Anyway, since there aren’t any actual humanoid species other than humans, we can’t know if the definition of the word includes them. It might not: it might specifically exclude sapient species. Well, not now, but there _used to be_ mulitple intelligent hominids walking the Earth. Apparently there is genetic evidence of _rishathra_ between _H. sapiens_ and _H. neanderthal_, and some for _H. sapiens_ and another group called the Denisovans. So, clearly, there is historical evidence that if there are other species of similar intellect about humans _will_ have sexual intercourse with them. At least some humans. If cross-species sex is forbidden what do we do with all those Europeans who are 2-4% Neantherthal by genes? ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/89 "2015-08-17T20:27:05Z")
> [@j666](#): > > You could use that definition with your German Shepard. Well, not me personally… ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/90 "2015-08-17T20:38:38Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > What’s the term for having consensual sex with a human who is of legal age…but not of legal competence? It seems like a form of rape. If said adult human is not legally competent then he or she can not give legal consent… so yeah, it IS a sort of rape/sexual assault under current laws. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/91 "2015-08-19T01:14:24Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I’m pretty sure he’s also the only person ever to say that Superman was bonking Louis. Rule 34 Superman/Suits crossover ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/92 "2015-08-19T01:24:57Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > If said adult human is not legally competent then he or she can not give legal consent… so yeah, it IS a sort of rape/sexual assault under current laws. Does this mean that someone who is retarded cannot have sex legally? Who decides who is legally competent to have sex? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/93 "2015-08-19T02:10:46Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Does this mean that someone who is retarded cannot have sex legally? Who decides who is legally competent to have sex? In the end, a judge. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/94 "2015-08-19T02:38:26Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > In the end, a judge. What about other positions? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/95 "2015-08-19T03:34:54Z")
Beautiful! Contempt of Court, three days in the county lock-up…but beautiful! ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/96 "2015-08-19T03:52:23Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Does this mean that someone who is retarded cannot have sex legally? Who decides who is legally competent to have sex? It depends on the level of disability. Some people who fall under the label “retarded” are sufficiently competent to make a valid consent to sex and some even produce and raise children. Others, more severely impaired, can not give legal consent and therefore can not legally have sex. It’s a sticky issue, as adult people with developmental issues of that sort often have all the normal sex drive of a non-impaired person. When there isn’t a clear answer it can end up in front of a judge quite easily. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/97 "2015-08-19T04:04:04Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Beautiful! Contempt of Court, three days in the county lock-up…but beautiful! I kind of feel like I was waiting my whole life for that, and it’s gonna be all downhill from here. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/98 "2015-08-19T04:31:43Z")
Some years ago, there was a guy here named “The Badger.” At one point, someone started talking Jesus at him. I said, “Objection. Counsel is witnessing the badger.” High point of my entire posting life. I can go eat worms now; I’ll never equal that. Life is cruel… Harlan Ellison had a story about that. A guy wants to know what will be the best moment of his entire life. The evil genie shows him: it was when he was in grade school, and caught a fly ball. That’s it. Nothing in his life will ever equal that moment. I hate Harlan Ellison… ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/99 "2015-08-19T14:59:38Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Beautiful! Contempt of Court, three days in the county lock-up…but beautiful! I lobbed a slow one down the middle. It was designed to be hit out of the park. I know you guys. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865/100 "2015-08-19T20:53:38Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I lobbed a slow one down the middle. It was designed to be hit out of the park. I know you guys. OK you’re an accessory. I’ve already flipped and left town so it looks like you’re on the hook. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-we-stop-calling-sex-between-different-identical-to-human-species-bestiality/727865.md?page=4)