The cite doesn’t infer that. Regardless, I didn’t say that so your statement was (unsurprisingly) incorrect.
Says you. And you are pretty much always wrong as evidenced by this thread.
That sad part is that your blindness is likely willful. How many examples of being pulled over for minor or no infractions do you need? The Bland case illustrates that perfectly. That is one of many cases.
Nobody here has shown any overwhelming evidence of mass police misconduct where the issue of force is concerned. Show me the DOJ task force investigating all uses of force by police. Show me the congressional hearings.
Better yet, in 10 years show me considerable changes in police science application with an emphasis in “boy, were we wrong a decade ago”. Do that, and I’ll eat your serving of crow with a side of garlic mashed. All you have spewed so far is an opinion based on your lack of occupation in the field you are hyper critical of, and hand picked cites that don’t pass muster in the locale where I am.
ETA: why are you crediting puddleglum with my posts?
My mistake with the accreditation.
But you are just a broken record at this point. People overwhelmingly feel police cannot be trusted to do their job, and the evidence of that is both anecdotal, and statistical. You are pretty much not ever going to come around on this, so let’s just agree to disagree. Even though 50% of people think police are fundamentally dishonest, there isn’t really a problem with the police; it’s all in our minds. Makes perfect sense since most of us are burger flippers.
So what? Really, so what? A lot of people think plumbers are dishonest. Doesn’t mean they’re right. Also doesn’t mean plumbers aren’t getting the job done right. Unmarried marriage counselors have no idea WTF they’re talking about. They can think what they want all they want, does not mean they are correct.
It’s also irrelevant to the OP. The way I read it, the OP suggests that somehow there is an abundance of negative outcomes during traffic stops, and that it is the fault of law enforcement. Wrong on both accounts. And the OP’s solution would be a major disaster to the publics safety.
I don’t agree to that*. 
*With apologies to Seymour Skinner.
Public perception of the police is pretty important. Widespread distrust of police behavior ratchets up the possibilities of serious conflict, of which Ferguson, Baltimore and New York this summer were pretty obvious examples.
Actually it probably does as most impressions are based on experience and observations when they get to a critical mass of that level. We are not talking about a fringe belief, nor a subject with which people have no experience. It’s like saying a site like Yelp that has thousands of people saying the food at a restaurant is terrible is meaningless. It’s far more likely that they are right and the food is terrible than not. That concept coupled with many, many examples of widespread police misconduct are enough to bolster the claim.
Actually it does when people think they are doing a bad job, and the results are sub-par. Police generally fail in both public perception and results.
What an awful analogy. The idea that one’s own personal experience with marriage would give them greater insight or knowledge than years of study and work with numerous couples is mindbogglingly foolish. In your mind, you somehow think work experience, years of schooling, and professional accreditation is worth less than singular personal experience? Does that really make sense to you? I honestly cannot tell if you are serious, or if you are just that naive and illogical.
Let’s make a similar analogy to highlight how dumb what you said is. A pro football coach cannot be a good coach or assessor of talent if he has never played pro football. That’s how we know people like Bill Belichick and Nick Saban are terrible coaches. It’s also why men are uniformally terrible OBGYNs.
First, the OP didn’t say any of that.
My bolding. The line I quoted was fairly deferential to the cop’s position as well. But, I can see how such a OP seems wholly unfair to a reactionary, irrational cop. More importantly, there are a ton of negative outcomes during traffic stops. Even when both parties act in a fair and respectful manner, there is often still the matter of a cop handing you a bill for couple hundred bucks. People will natural project negative feelings towards that group even when they are at fault. Just think about how much the IRS is hated for collecting taxes, now imagine some guy in an IRS uniform showed up at your house to collect the check every April. People would hate that guy.
Cops would often be disliked in even the best of circumstances given most of the public’s interaction with them is being stopped, ticketed, and/or told what to do. In reality though, that animus is compounded by the fact that the job attracts reactionary, abusive, and controlling people, and the fact that those people often break the law and act in an unprofessional manner.
Minimizing the negative interactions between police and cops is a net positive, and since almost no one has even been thankful to have been pulled over by a cop, limiting the use of traffic stops would go a long way to improving the profession. Additionally, given most of the task can be done by robots, you would save time ad resources, and you would be able to allocate those resources in a more efficient and logical manner.
Actually it’s perfect. I wouldn’t pretend to know how to do the job of a dentist, an auto mechanic or an electrician. As long as my toothache went away, my car was fixed correctly, and my lights turn on I’ll accept that some of them are assholes.
And if one or two dentist, mechanics, or electricians screw up I wouldn’t expect all of them to make major changes in their M.O. in how they do things.
Yes he did:
That would be a major change in the way things are done.
Actually, it’s awful and you are changing the analogy. You said:
Which is about the height of stupidity. A marriage counselor doesn’t have to be married to know how to effectively counsel married people. The job and one’s marriage status are completely unrelated. Again, should men never become OBGYNs because they have never given birth and don’t have vaginas?
Furthermore, your newer (stupid) point is also bad given I don’t need to know exactly how to do the job of a dentist or auto mechanic to tell if they are poor at their job. If I bring in my car, and the car isn’t fixed properly, then the problem likely lies with the mechanic regardless if whether I could do the work myself. The fact that this very basic concept escapes you is really troubling given you (I think) have a gun and the authority to arrest people.
But that is not what we are talking about. A cop being an asshole to the extent it affects his/her job performance is far different given I cannot chose the cop I interact with. Besides, we are not talking about cops who do a good job, but are jerks. We are talking about cops who do a bad job. Seriously, your comments are just starting to read like performance art. Are these genuine replies?
It’s not one or two. More importantly, car manufacturers and licensing organizations often change recommended best practices as a result of practitioners making mistakes or because of bad outcomes without bad intent.
Except that that is not the point. You said:
S/he did no such thing, and you owe them an apology.
So? When things aren’t working, you sometimes need to make major changes.
How are things not working? A couple of highly publicized incidents as compared to the millions of police contacts every year does not equate “things aren’t working”.
Please explain & defend the idea that “things aren’t working”.
Then how could cops stop families and extort thousands of dollars under threat of kidnapping their children?
I have multiple times. Half the population thinks cops are dishonest and unprofessional. According to the BJS, there were 9.5 complaints per 100 municipal officers. That is not a small amount, doubly so given many complaints aren’t filed.
That is not a valid measure of “things aren’t working”. Complaints mean nothing unless they are deemed legitimate. A lot of citizen complaints are found to be unsubstantiated. People make complaints all the time which are shown to have no basis in fact. Just because someone is pissed off about something doesn’t mean the officer did anything wrong.
People get angry when they get tickets or arrested and think the officer did something wrong when in fact he may have done everything by the book. Show me a seasoned officer with no complaints on file and I’ll show you a cop who isn’t out doing his job.