# Can women consent to having small sex?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 22, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587 "2017-06-22T05:51:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![dude\_robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e7dd6/32.png) [@dude\_robert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dude_robert)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/1 "2017-06-22T05:51:18Z")

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Once I read on the internet that a person said that all anal sex with women was actually always, 100% of the time actually rape because no woman would ever actually consent to anal sex. Is this true? I’ve heard many, many people say this before, and I’m starting to wonder. I mean, I’ve never once had anal sex with a woman, so perhaps it is true?

I think I read it on the comments section of a movie review website where the ending shows a woman asking a hero for anal sex, and the people were then saying the jeep was a rapist.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/2 "2017-06-22T05:58:14Z")

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Sex with a jeep is never small, rapist or no!

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/3 "2017-06-22T05:58:32Z")

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Of a course a woman can consent to anal sex. Many, many women partake. I don’t know where you’re hearing this, but people saying things like “all hetero anal sex is rape” or “no woman would ever consent to anal sex” are morons.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/4 "2017-06-22T06:03:53Z")

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Generally speaking, you can consent to most things short of serious injury or death. You also can consent to thing which has a chance of serious injury or death.

At common law, you could not consent to sodomy; which had many definitions, but anal sex was one of them. While in practice anal sex between two consenting adults was unlikely to be prosecuted, a woman could get separation order from her husband if she proved he wanted/forced her to have such “unnatural intercourse”, which typically was not the case with regular P in V sex (for that she had to show special aggravating circumstances, such as during pregnancy, delibating illness or in public).

Not all jurisdictions have moved on from the common law system in their current statute books, though one again prosecution is unlikely.

So the answer? It depends.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/5 "2017-06-22T06:21:43Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Sex with a jeep is never small, rapist or no!

I’m still looking for my horse and cart.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/6 "2017-06-22T06:39:04Z")

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Hey, he says he read it on the internet. So we know it must be true!

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/7 "2017-06-22T06:57:29Z")

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@ **dude robert** : It may surprise you to learn that [some feminists consider all \*vaginal \*sex to be rape, too.](https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/)

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/8 "2017-06-22T07:06:24Z")

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This has never come up in conversations with my friends. I think I run in the wrong circles.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/9 "2017-06-22T07:20:33Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> @ **dude robert** : It may surprise you to learn that [some feminists consider all \*vaginal \*sex to be rape, too.](https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/)

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> First, well intercourse is NEVER sex for women. Only men experience rape as sexual and define it as such. Sex for men is the unilateral penetration of their penis into a woman (or anything else replacing and symbolising the female orifice) **whether she thinks she wants it or not**

Bolding mine. This is one of the most misogynist things I have ever heard. It’s actually pretty in-line with alt-right evo-psych types who claim women don’t really know what they want. The circle is complete.

To the OP, you know damned well what the answer to this question is.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/10 "2017-06-22T07:23:15Z")

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Oh, and more from this website in the comments:

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> I’m done with the notion that piv should be used for reproduction alone, if practiced at all on a female. There’s just no need for it. Our bodies weren’t made for that.

WTF THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT OUR BODIES WERE MADE FOR.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/11 "2017-06-22T07:37:37Z")

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I can’t deal with these comments. That is some seriously batty shit, **Velocity**. I knew Friedan (I think? I’m a terrible feminist wrt knowing my stuff) pushed this theory with early feminism, but I had no idea there were people alive today who bought into it.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/12 "2017-06-22T07:43:34Z")

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I’d just like you to know, that as a radfem, I have thought that all PIV is rape for longer than you have. I’m way more rad than you.

Also, I’m so rad I think men having penises is of itself rape and actually to be blunt and - you may not be ready for this concept because you aren’t as rad as me, but - men _are_ rape. The concept of men is rape and even men’s decision to exist is a premeditated act of extreme violence on women.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/13 "2017-06-22T08:17:48Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> I’d just like you to know, that as a radfem, I have thought that all PIV is rape for longer than you have. I’m way more rad than you.
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> Also, I’m so rad I think men having penises is of itself rape and actually to be blunt and - you may not be ready for this concept because you aren’t as rad as me, but - men _are_ rape. The concept of men is rape and even men’s decision to exist is a premeditated act of extreme violence on women.

By extension, female existence is also rape, because we’ve been brainwashed into believing we want to exist.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/14 "2017-06-22T08:21:53Z")

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It says ‘‘small,’’ right? I’m not crazy? It says ‘‘anal’’ when I click on the link, but it says ‘‘small’’ on the forum list.

Just another example of men deceiving us into anal sex ☹

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/15 "2017-06-22T08:22:23Z")

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Right on sister. Men, as the controlling hegemony, have forced women to become their own rapists by leaving women with no choice but to exist, thereby becoming unwilling accomplices in their own rape.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/16 "2017-06-22T08:23:46Z")

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Frankly, I’m suspicious of anything vaguely cylindrical, along with anything that has a hole in it.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/17 "2017-06-22T08:24:26Z")

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Paper towel tubes are right out.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/18 "2017-06-22T08:26:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> It is in itself an extremely physically invasive act, very often painful, generally at the beginning before the pain may be cut off by the genital arousal; causes all sorts of tears, bruises, swelling, discomfort, STDs, vaginal infections, urinary infections, genital warts, HIV and death.

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> The fact intercourse causes so many infections and tears and warts attests to the unnaturalness of intercourse, that it’s not meant to be. The vagina’s primary function isn’t to be penetrated by a penis but to eject a baby for birth.

And what of all the deaths, the litany of discomforts and health woes women have experienced amid the process of ejecting a baby? Amazing.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/19 "2017-06-22T08:30:56Z")

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The level of cognitive dissonance is almost inspiring.

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**Author:** ![dude\_robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e7dd6/32.png) [@dude\_robert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dude_robert)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-women-consent-to-having-small-sex/789587/20 "2017-06-22T08:35:46Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> It says ‘‘small,’’ right? I’m not crazy? It says ‘‘anal’’ when I click on the link, but it says ‘‘small’’ on the forum list.
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> Just another example of men deceiving us into anal sex ☹

That’s just because the “small” is a typo; I corrected it after it had been posted; which was too late for it to change the actual title.

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