Can You Break the Code? (a game)

Tyranny, wings, etc.
Ogle doubts

-Kohl

?!?!?

I entered the code in and after 12 minutes and 53 seconds, out came the answer. I basically told the program to cycle through the numbers, substitute them for letters, until it came out with a combination that resulted in words found in the dictionary.

Problem solved!

But I won’t ruin it for those who are trying to solve it using their wits…

The number 65 is the letter N.
But N is not N

There is a pattern to the number:letter association. They are not randomly assigned.

ladyfoxfire is on the right track…

okay, aside from that annoying “57”, you have multiples of 5 and multiples of 9. As it happens, the consonants can be numbered in two digits by multiples of 5. The multiples of 9 may therefore be vowels. We know that N is not N. Here is a speculative key:

a 09
b 00
c 05
d 10
e 18
f 15
g 20
h 25
i 27
j 30
k 35
l 40
m 45
n 50
o 36
p 55
q 60
r 65 = N
s 70
t 75
u problem. Perhaps this is 57?
v 80
w 85
x 90
y 54
z 95

Which may give us a cryptogram:

65 45 10 36 / 25 65 85 75 27 70 / 95 65 15 10 / 27 05 40 50 30 30 05 / 35 18 30 45 70 / 36 27 57

P M(U?) D O / H R(N) W T I S / Z R(N) F D / I C L N J J C / K E J M S / O I U(M?)

I don’t know. Did that help at all?

This is one possible solution based upon the numbers. Oh sure, it doesn’t make sense, but did you expect a highly trained spy from the opposing side to give you a clear message even after you solved it?

Sooooooo, 65 is not N? Zuh?

SofaKing…

All but 4 numbers are multiples of 5, the remaining 4 are multiples of 3!

:slight_smile:

The wire just came back from a team of experts over at the SMITHSONIAN. Using a new carbon dating technique they were able to tell which number was written first to last. It seems that,though they were able to place the code in proper sequence they are still unable to offer any more clues.

Luckily for us, the espionage agent is weaking under interrogation and has offered us another clue. “5” was the only word s/he let slip before unconsciousness took over. Must be important somehow.

And here is the code in sequence (and spaced for better visuability)

35-18-30-45-70 / 36-27-57-65-45-10-36 / 25-65-85-75-27-70 / 95-65-15-10 / 27-05-40-50-30-30-05

I am? YIPPEE!!! Okay, so N is not N. I think this may mean that the numbers aren’t coded in a specific order, like “57 does not always mean (whatever)” instead it is a counting code. Let me think of an example.

If we were spelling “DOPE”, and the letter D were assigned 26, we might count up to O and get that it = 37. Since P is right next to it, counting straight up might be too obvious. So switch it, count down and backwards from the alphabet. P=12. Switch it again, up the alphabet and up the numbers. E=27. DOPE=(26)(37)(12)(27)
I don’t think it’s that simple though, I think it involves multiples and counting up by more than just one digit.

Royal Sampler, I’m not giving you any recognition for “cracking the code” because you used a computer program to do any work that would have otherwise involved your brain.

If you could figure out what the basis of the code is, so that you could write your own coded message, maybe I’d gain a little respect for you.

Again you are on the right track but you are over-thinking the proceess. This is where the #5 comes in.
…but I’ve said enough already :smiley:

Yeah that’s where the 5 comes in, I’m thinking on the track of dividing the resulting numbers by 5, but not all the numbers are divisible by 5 (36, 27, 18, 57) but all those numbers are divisible by 3. Divide the rest of the numbers by 5 and maybe you get a correlation to the number of the alphabet. Unfortunately, divide the remainging numbers by 3 and you get duplicates.
Wait, hang on a second. If N doesn’t =N, duplicates would be possible. Maybe it implies that solving one letter and in turn solving the rest of the problem with that solution would result in something that didn’t make sense.

I don’t know.

I’m still working.

Yeah that’s where the 5 comes in, I’m thinking on the track of dividing the resulting numbers by 5, but not all the numbers are divisible by 5 (36, 27, 18, 57) but all those numbers are divisible by 3. Divide the rest of the numbers by 5 and maybe you get a correlation to the number of the alphabet. Unfortunately, divide the remainging numbers by 3 and you get duplicates.
Wait, hang on a second. If N doesn’t =N, duplicates would be possible. Maybe it implies that solving one letter and in turn solving the rest of the problem with that solution would result in something that didn’t make sense.

I don’t know.

I’m still working.

liar

Now I’m thinking that if you divide all the numbers in the puzzle by 3 or 5, depending on which they are multiples of, you’ll get lower digits. Does the number 5 somehow indicate what letter of the alphabet to start numbering at?

No.
No division is needed to solve the cryptogram. But I will offer another clue and you will see how this puzzle is solved.

50=F
N=I

Although I say no division that does not mean that no math skills are involved. Just a little additon/subtraction.

That and your basic nonlinear quasi-functional comprehensive calculus, with a dash of chaos theory :wink:

I got it! Although, is that really an appropriate message, given these elightnened times? I’m not saying that the statement isn’t true, but still…

I figured it out using nothing but my own brain and cryptography skills. I want to prove it, but I don’t want to spoil everyone else’s fun.

I just figured out a way to prove it to Spyderman:

50256557658575270557150527

0595300518573610

CONGRATULATIONS!

Lemme buy you a beer :cool: