# Can you calculate rare card pull odds by hand?

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**Created:** [November 21, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-calculate-rare-card-pull-odds-by-hand/518454 "2009-11-21T21:31:10Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-calculate-rare-card-pull-odds-by-hand/518454/1 "2009-11-21T21:31:10Z")

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I’m interested to know the autograph/rare card pull odds for 2009 bowman chrome football cards. However, since they just came out last month, nobody really knows. I’ve been extrapolating based on baseball cards and 2008 bowman, but it would vary based on the production run.

Is there a rule of thumb?