# Can you explain half of Pirates of the Caribbean 3? (unboxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 9, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907 "2008-01-09T22:01:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/21 "2008-01-10T06:07:26Z")
Is it just me or does Johnny Depp’s characterization of Jack Sparrow seem to be based, partly if not largely, on Edwina from _Absolutely Fabulous_? ---
**Author:** ![Taters](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/taters/32/2845_2.png) [@Taters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taters)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/22 "2008-01-10T06:10:24Z")
I had the same thoughts **lissener.** The body movements are soooo Edwina. I read somewhere who and what he based the character on, but lamely, I can’t remember who or what, and I can’t provide the cite. However, I do remember he didn’t mention Edwina. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/23 "2008-01-10T06:11:23Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] Is it just me or does Johnny Depp’s characterization of Jack Sparrow seem to be based, partly if not largely, on Edwina from _Absolutely Fabulous_? [/QUOTE] He said in an interview that it was based on Keith Richards and Pepe LePew, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/24 "2008-01-10T06:16:15Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] He said in an interview that it was based on Keith Richards and Pepe LePew, IIRC. [/QUOTE] I guess that mean . . . (Keith Richards + Pepe LePew) x Johnny Depp = Edwina . . . or something. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/25 "2008-01-10T16:09:19Z")
> [@](#): > > As for the second part… why didn’t Jack have Bootstrap stab the heart? Um, because Will would have died? It was the only way to save Will. Yes, but Jack confronted Davy Jones ovr the heart _before_ Davy stabbed Will. ---
**Author:** ![NailBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@NailBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NailBunny)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/26 "2008-01-10T16:18:04Z")
[QUOTE=smiling bandit] Yes, but Jack confronted Davy Jones ovr the heart _before_ Davy stabbed Will. [/QUOTE] Jack had spent most of the movie wibbling over the fact that if he did stab the heart, sure he could sail the seas forever but he could only make port (where he could get rum and “salty wenches”) once every ten years and in the meantime there’d be the ferrying of souls and all that to take care of, or he’d go fishy. Jack’s main interests were: 1. Get rid of his debt to Davy Jones, and 2. Live forever. Everything else, he wasn’t so keen on. Am I the only one that thinks that this movie would have been much tighter and made more sense if they’d just jettisoned the Tia Dalma/Calypso plot altogether? It ended up serving no purpose at all, other than she turned into some crabs and made a big whirlpool. The bretheren court was meeting anyway to discuss what to do about Beckett, so she wasn’t needed there, and I mean, if you’re having a big, supernatural, climatic battle at sea, why can’t a big whirlpool just _appear_? Could have nipped about 40 minutes and much confusing plot off the movie that way. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/27 "2008-01-10T16:52:55Z")
All I remember about this movie is that a monkey pulls a gun on a parrot. That was funny. And the rest of it illustrated the maxim that “nothing is more tedious than unrelenting action”. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/28 "2008-01-10T17:42:11Z")
So what happened after the credits? I was pretty quick to turn it off once it finally, thankfully, ended. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/29 "2008-01-10T17:53:45Z")
[QUOTE=NailBunny] Jack had spent most of the movie wibbling over the fact that if he did stab the heart, sure he could sail the seas forever but he could only make port (where he could get rum and “salty wenches”) once every ten years and in the meantime there’d be the ferrying of souls and all that to take care of, or he’d go fishy. Jack’s main interests were: 1. Get rid of his debt to Davy Jones, and 2. Live forever. Everything else, he wasn’t so keen on. [/QUOTE] Well, yeah, I’d gotten that. thought he’d kinda sorta accepted that he didn’t want to captain the Flying Dutchman, and was looking for another option. I didn’t understand why he was going after the heart instead of getting it to the obvious canidate (Bootstrap, IMHO). JSexton: You see Elizabeth along with a ten-year old boy, Will having been gone for ten years. Your see their faces as a bright green flash comes off the sunset, presumably Will Turner coming home. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/30 "2008-01-10T19:42:46Z")
[QUOTE=smiling bandit] Yes, but Jack confronted Davy Jones ovr the heart _before_ Davy stabbed Will. [/QUOTE] This really changes nothing. He threatens to do it (probably still unsure if he wants the burden), doesn’t get the chance to. Jones stabs Will. Will’s going to DIE if he doesn’t become the new Captain. Jack has Will stab the heart saving him. I heard there was a cut scene explaining that the Captain of the Dutchman only has to serve a ten year term before being able to pass on the job. It’s not in the movie so it doesn’t really count. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907/31 "2008-01-10T19:56:43Z")
Geez! I missed the first hour of this movie, which is why I thought I didn’t know what the hell was going on! Turns out it was just as confusing as I thought it was. Somewhere around the time of the big pirate pow-wow, I just decided to enjoy the costumes and the scenery. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-explain-half-of-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-unboxed-spoilers/432907.md?page=1)