# Can you get beef patties at your local pizzeria? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 27, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649 "2015-06-27T20:05:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/1 "2015-06-27T20:05:56Z")
Here in New York you can walk into any (non-chain) pizzeria and order a Jamaican beef patty. Ask them nice and they’ll open it up and put some mozzarella on it. Then I visited Boston and asked for a beef patty and the guy there pointed out, quite reasonably, that I was in an Italian restaurant and not a Jamaican one. Is this another “buttered roll” situation where, when you leave your hometown, common food request is totally unheard of? ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/2 "2015-06-27T20:29:00Z")
I went with No but had to look up what one was to make sure it wasn’t just a different name for something I knew. It wasn’t. I had to look up the “buttered roll” thread too. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/3 "2015-06-27T20:39:16Z")
Some of them at least. Some donut shops, too. Dammit, now I want one… [Edit - to be clear, it’s not a ‘pizzaria’ thing, they can be found in food shops of all types…but not all of the ones of a given type.] ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/4 "2015-06-27T20:42:46Z")
How is a Jamaican Beef Patty different from a ground beef calzone? BTW, while a number of pizzerias in my area do make calzones, I don’t think any make them with just ground beef. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/5 "2015-06-27T20:50:26Z")
[A Jamaican Beef Patty of the type usually sold in New York pizzerias.](https://multiculturalcookingnetwork.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jamaicanbeefpatty.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/6 "2015-06-27T20:51:40Z")
Yes, but they call them “meatballs”. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/7 "2015-06-27T20:54:23Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > How is a Jamaican Beef Patty different from a ground beef calzone? Completely different crust. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/8 "2015-06-27T21:00:47Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Completely different crust. And the insides taste totally different too. ---
**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/9 "2015-06-27T21:06:12Z")
Northern California. While some local pizza restaurants have an expanded menu that includes burgers, sandwiches and pasta, I have never seen anything like the Jamaican Beef Patty, nor even heard of such a thing before today. Looks good, though. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/10 "2015-06-27T21:15:02Z")
Not around here. I’m excited to learn that Domino’s Pizza has [more on its menu](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-jfSrzWwU) than just pizza, however. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/11 "2015-06-27T21:33:15Z")
Never heard of it, and wouldn’t ask for one even if I had. Looks _wrong_. But then, I don’t like calzone either. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/12 "2015-06-27T22:39:03Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > And the insides taste totally different too. Wouldn’t know…have never had a ground beef calzone. (Actually, I’ve only had a couple calzones in my life at all.) Though…yeah, I would expect they’d taste different…the spices would seem rather out of place. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/13 "2015-06-27T22:48:25Z")
Before opening this thread, I had only ever encountered the phrase “beef patty” to mean the meat part of a hamburger (as in “two all-beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun”). Then I read the OP and came across the phrase “open it up” and I thought, WTF? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_is_the_new_Analog)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/14 "2015-06-27T22:49:15Z")
Down here, we go to Jamaican restaurants for stuff like that. I just checked our most popular local non-chain, and no patties. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/15 "2015-06-27T23:11:54Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Before opening this thread, I had only ever encountered the phrase “beef patty” to mean the meat part of a hamburger (as in “two all-beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun”). Then I read the OP and came across the phrase “open it up” and I thought, WTF? 😕 This. It’s like, I recognize all these words, but given the context, I’m not sure if we are speaking the same language. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/16 "2015-06-27T23:38:33Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > [A Jamaican Beef Patty of the type usually sold in New York pizzerias.](https://multiculturalcookingnetwork.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jamaicanbeefpatty.jpg) That’s not a “patty.” That’s a “pasty.” Except edible. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/17 "2015-06-27T23:47:08Z")
No, it’s a [patty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaican_patty). ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/18 "2015-06-28T00:06:36Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > [A Jamaican Beef Patty of the type usually sold in New York pizzerias.](https://multiculturalcookingnetwork.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jamaicanbeefpatty.jpg) Jamaican patties are DEAD TO ME since Christie’s on Flatbush Avenue closed, about six months back. After FORTY EIGHT years, too. How can you eat those pre-frozen abominations they sell at pizzerias once you have tasted the delight of a fresh Christie’s beef patty? Even their steam table stuff was delicious. Did you ever try their brown chicken stew? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/19 "2015-06-28T00:20:46Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Jamaican patties are DEAD TO ME since Christie’s on Flatbush Avenue closed, about six months back. After FORTY EIGHT years, too. > > How can you eat those pre-frozen abominations they sell at pizzerias once you have tasted the delight of a fresh Christie’s beef patty? > > Even their steam table stuff was delicious. Did you ever try their brown chicken stew? See, if I want homemade patties I can go to any varies ‘Yardies’ type restaurants run by Jamaicans all along Long Island from Queens to Suffolk. But even hard core Jamaicans have a place in their hearts for commercial [island Tower](http://imgusr.tradekey.com/p-287299-20060709224822/usa-1-0-trans-fat-jamaican-style-patties-beef-cocktail-patty.jpg) or [Golden Krust](http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/wDSwW8DeMFcZC7wethXQag/ls.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649/20 "2015-06-28T00:39:15Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Before opening this thread, I had only ever encountered the phrase “beef patty” to mean the meat part of a hamburger (as in “two all-beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun”). Then I read the OP and came across the phrase “open it up” and I thought, WTF? 😕 Me too. But then I looked at the link and realized that I’m familiar with this food item, but by a different name. I can’t recall what those are called here, but it’s not a patty. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-beef-patties-at-your-local-pizzeria/723649.md?page=2)