# Can you get over a ritalin crash just by taking more ritalin? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 3, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-over-a-ritalin-crash-just-by-taking-more-ritalin/819027 "2018-08-03T12:19:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-over-a-ritalin-crash-just-by-taking-more-ritalin/819027/21 "2018-08-13T18:19:41Z")
> [@squish7](#): > > Woooow. Low, low, low, low,(…) blows > > If you have criticisms of me, you could raise them productively, in a polite, constructive tone, or even send a PM. This childish whining doesn’t belong on any message board, you’re basically trolling. You may be trolling only one specific person, but that doesn’t make it any better. > > I posted this thread 10 days ago, and I’ve been checking back frequently and mentally processing your helpful responses (I say all the time that I’m very thankful for people’s help/advice/info/etc on this board). Please point me to the response-rate that I’m required to adhere to on this board. You guys post a ton of info and I respect/appreciate that so much, so I try to take time to thoroughly read and mentally digest every post carefully. It’s not just reading the length of text on the board; it’s _ **digesting the info carefully** _ because it’s a not a kiddie-book. I usually read most of your responses multiple times so I can **integrate them into my worldview.** > > When someone links to an article they think is useful, I try to spend time with that article. That effectively amounts to dozens–or if I follow links to other articles that _those_ articles directly reference (e.g. Wikipedia internal links), hundreds–of pages of reading. With all that, there’s an element of TLDR and something has to be left unread. If you link to an article and I spend 10 min digesting it because it’s interesting and helps answer my inquiry, maybe I don’t have another 10 minutes right then to read more responses under the link or _write_ responses at that time. **I regularly go back to _many previous threads_ I’ve started and continue to digest the answers and think about them.** > > **Other readers may find your advice helpful,** both current people passing through and people 10 years from now who might search for these topics. I occasionally steer away from very specific questions to me because I think it can make the thread a bit less useful to other general readers. It’s very nice for you to think of me personally, but it’s also nice to think of the general reader too. It can also be a balance of both. There are threads with _ **tens of thousands of views.** _ Maybe not every one of those people have time to go to their doctor and ask them the question that can easily read on this board. Or, _they might not even realize they had the question_ until they stumble upon a thread. > > **I specifically started a thread on _[when to go to StraightDope vs other sources](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21083670#post21083670)_, and there were different opinions. naita said that _“If you are dissatisfied with the first page of results on Google, go ahead and ask the SDMB”._ Projammer said _“I come here when I want opinions or some discussion/debate on the question”._ And other opinions. I will genuinely factor in _your_ opinion–that I shouldn’t post so many medical question–and consider it amongst the zany mosh-pit of other opinions.** > > Any _one_ doctor will have one particular opinion. This board has _many_ people with _many_ **wise and creative opinions** and different personal experiences. That **diversity** can’t be obtained by one doctor’s opinion. > > If you don’t like me, my threads, etc, _ **why spend your personal time responding??** _ > > Sometimes I wonder why direct foul language on message boards is instantly deletable, while direct personal attacks are kosher. > > Daft, cruel, and childish. > (I’m a “him” by the way.) Um, im sorry but where in the world are you getting the idea that i was in any way doing anything but posing a legitimate relevant question relating to your OP? I absolutely, positively did not “attack” you in any way. Neither did i express any sort of. “displeaure” towards this or any other thread of yours (i dont remember ever reading a thread of yours before). Can you explain why my question was so hostile and offensive to you? Jesus H. Christ, you STILL have not answered the question. And yeah, any ONE doctor will have opinions and the one to listen to and the one whose opinions are most relevant is the one doctor whose care you are under. Thou doth protest too much. I asked a perfectly reasonable question, you made a lot of noise and said a lot of words in response to that question but in the end the question remains unanswered. I stand behind my question. Your reaction to it was not appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![squish7](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squish7/32/104_2.png) [@squish7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squish7)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-over-a-ritalin-crash-just-by-taking-more-ritalin/819027/22 "2018-08-13T18:23:14Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > This is a legit medically therapeutic dosage you’re taking right? I’m on different prescribed stimulants at different times. Yes naturally I discuss them with my doctor. > [@RivkahChaya](#): > > this is really a conversation you need to have with your doctor. Please do. I’ll go a third your way and say maybe I shouldn’t have posted so many specifics, but I disagree with you in general. A message board like this is extremely diverse with a million different opinions, _stories_, experiences, etcetc. There are 17 trillion _topics_ in the world. Minus a few details, I raised the general topic of **stimulant crash** or **stimulant comedown**. Go google it, it’s a very common occurrence/topic. If you don’t like my details, you could just post a general idea about stim crash, or you could avoid the thread entirely and let people who are interested in the topic answer if they want. 🙂 > [@TriPolar](#): > > My doctor told me the crashes were normal. > [@Joey\_P](#): > > I read somewhere, don’t recall where, a doc saying that if they’re kid seemed to wired or antsy to sleep, a half (quarter?) dose an hour or two before bed would help them sleep. // Also, if it’s taking too long to kick in, I know some people will set an alarm for an hour or so before they need to wake up, take their pill and go back to bed. It gives it a headstart and probably helps you wake up. Ok, so here’s _2_ people that mention a doctor’s opinion. Just there, that’s 2 doctor’s opinions represented, where asking your doctor is only _one_ opinion. Plus Joey “knows some people who will set an alarm” etc; there’s an idea that someone interested about ritalin reading the thread, might want to know. Etcetcetc for all the posts in the thread with useful info and opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-over-a-ritalin-crash-just-by-taking-more-ritalin/819027/23 "2018-08-13T18:30:12Z")
So you are giving equal value to the opinions of random people on the internet who know nothing about you and have no medical training whatsoever to the informed opinion of your doctor? ---
**Author:** ![squish7](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squish7/32/104_2.png) [@squish7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squish7)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-over-a-ritalin-crash-just-by-taking-more-ritalin/819027/24 "2018-08-13T18:43:08Z")
In general if someone says “my doctor said this”, they’re reporting what a _trained_ doctor said. You’re splitting hairs. The only thing that remains is whether or not you believe that person’s report, or believe it’s accurately relayed. That’s a personal judgement of your own. “Random people on the internet”, I feel, demeans people who post on this board a bit (even if you didn’t intend that). **I’ve developed a very high level of respect/faith/trust in the _general_ types of people who post here. So no, it’s not _random_ people, it’s people who on average are of an honesty and wisdom that I trust.** There’s also something about people who _talk with authority_, quoting/etc info that can be verified/etc, so then you know that person is wise/etc and not posting random crap. ---
**Author:** ![squish7](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squish7/32/104_2.png) [@squish7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squish7)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-over-a-ritalin-crash-just-by-taking-more-ritalin/819027/25 "2018-08-13T22:23:09Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > this is really a conversation you need to have with your doctor. Please do. Clarification, when I said I disagree, I DON’T mean I shouldn’t talk to my doctor about these issues, of course, I just mean that one should be able to bring up a basic topic here. Forgive the details I gave, and go **google “ritalin crash”** and look at all the results. **Unwanted side-effects** of medications is a very simple topic, I just brought up a specific though very common medication. I’m not saying I’m hallucinating orange cows, and can you please analyze this hallucination of mine. If it’s an _uncommon_ topic, well, what the heck is the SDMB General Questions section for, just to answer simple, basic, common questions? Isn’t also used to bring up interesting questions and topics that people can express opinions on and butt in on? Whatever… ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-over-a-ritalin-crash-just-by-taking-more-ritalin/819027/26 "2018-08-13T23:02:14Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > Adrafinil isn’t the same as armodafinil or modafinil. Armodafinil is a stronger version of modafinil (it has to do with the chirality of the molecules, more here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVjrTEVw6wU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVjrTEVw6wU)). > > I’m seeing Adrafinil on Amazon right now: [https://www.amazon.ca/Adrafinil-300-100-Capsules-Nootropic/dp/B00KH9A036](https://www.amazon.ca/Adrafinil-300-100-Capsules-Nootropic/dp/B00KH9A036) > > Daytime sleepiness: Have you tried exercise in the morning? Interesting. I’d never heard of adrafinil but a quick google suggests it’s metabolized into modafinil (Provigil). AM exercise: yeah, and it helps right then but if I sit down to work, I get sleepy all over again :). The sleepiness is simply idiopathic (my definition of “idiopathic” is “your body is an idiot”). The wake-up meds make me much more functional. **BeeGee** : interesting that you mention Xyrem. I’d heard of that in the context of narcolepsy - which I don’t appear to have. I _can_ stay awake, it’s just tough sometimes. What would concern me about that it seems like it’s something you have to take for a while to have it help; the advantage to me of the Nuvigil is that I can skip that if I can afford to be brain-dead for a day. ---
**Author:** ![squish7](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squish7/32/104_2.png) [@squish7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squish7)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-over-a-ritalin-crash-just-by-taking-more-ritalin/819027/27 "2018-08-14T02:15:44Z")
Provigil is my preferred stimulant for ADHD. I know it’s off-label but it’s great to have something really steady all day. Very expensive, though, my insurance is extremely strict that you have to have documented narcolepsy for them to pay for it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-get-over-a-ritalin-crash-just-by-taking-more-ritalin/819027.md?page=1)