# Can you goto next page on SDMB without moving mouse? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [December 24, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477 "2009-12-24T20:02:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dandmb50](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ba9def/32.png) [@Dandmb50](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandmb50)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/1 "2009-12-24T20:02:37Z")
I always wondered is there another way to get to the next page other than moving the mouse to the page number? I skip through kinda quick and just wondered if you can use something else to move through the pages? I already use the page down/up and home and end but what about moving thru pages? I just need to get all this knowledge as fast as I can… ---
**Author:** ![J\_Cubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c6cbf5/32.png) [@J\_Cubed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/J_Cubed)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/2 "2009-12-24T20:10:36Z")
When I used to use Opera as my browser, I could use the “Forward” mouse gesture (hold down the right button and slide the mouse to the right) to go to the next page, **if** Opera could detect an obvious next button or link on the page. On here, it might follow the “Next Thread” link instead, but you could try it. Of course, that merely reduces mouse movement instead of eliminating it. There may be a key combo that does the same thing, though. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/3 "2009-12-24T20:14:59Z")
Firefox has [Mouse Gestures](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=mouse+gestures&cat=all&advancedsearch=1&as=1&appid=1&lver=3.5&atype=0&pp=20&pid=5&sort=&lup=) too. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/4 "2009-12-24T20:23:50Z")
> [@Dandmb50](#): > > I always wondered is there another way to get to the next page other than moving the mouse to the page number? Append &page=2 to the address. Or &page=3, &page=4, etc depending on the page you want. Not a faster way I suppose, but it is different. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/5 "2009-12-24T20:56:34Z")
There’s a firefox addon called [AutoPager](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4925). I tested it and it doesn’t work in SDMB with default settings, but it looks like you might be able to get it running if you mess with the settings. It looks like it’s above my skills. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/6 "2009-12-24T21:10:01Z")
Moving to ATMB from GQ. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/7 "2009-12-25T19:33:54Z")
You might check out AutoHotKey [http://www.autohotkey.com/](http://www.autohotkey.com/). I don’t use it myself, but I’ve seen a lot of people who like it. If you use Firefox, there might be an add-on or Greasemonkey script to do this. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/8 "2009-12-28T22:00:39Z")
A lot of browsers allow you to navigate around the links and form widgets of the page using the tab key. When you get to the link you want, pressing enter follows it. (Note: I tend to use only Free Software browsers such as SeaMonkey, Firefox, Konqueror, Lynx, Links, etc. I’m not familiar with things like Internet Explorer, though I’d be surprised if it didn’t also have provisions for keyboard navigation.) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/9 "2009-12-29T01:43:16Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > A lot of browsers allow you to navigate around the links and form widgets of the page using the tab key. I believe they’re all compelled to do this in compliance with the ADA. Keyboard navigation is considered an accessibility feature. It’s possible to do everything on your computer without even having a mouse, but it’s a major PITA. I was amazed the other day while discussing adding your program to the system tray (those icons on the right of the taskbar next to the clock) that even system tray icons can be fired off using the keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/10 "2009-12-29T10:59:41Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I believe they’re all compelled to do this in compliance with the ADA. I doubt it; how would such a thing be enforced? Does the ADA mandate that any browser which is written have keyboard navigation? If so, I don’t see how that can be enforced with Free Software packages which are developed by teams of hundreds of individual programmers located all over the world. Perhaps the ADA imposes the restriction only for browsers which are sold in the USA, which again wouldn’t apply to the vast majority of Free browsers Because they’re freely distributable, they’re not normally sold; even so, any third party could take one and sell it if they wanted to, but how/why would this suddenly impose an obligation on the actual authors of the software? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/11 "2009-12-29T14:02:43Z")
The closest thing I can find is in [Section 508 § 1194.21(a)](http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Content&ID=12#Software), which says that all software **used by the U.S. Federal Government** must have keyboard accessibility. This is what Mozilla [says](http://www.mozilla.org/access/keyboard/proposal) is the reason for the accessibility option in Gecko-based browsers (such as Firefox). Honestly I just think it’s because the minority of users who need to those features is large enough that it would be suicide not to support it in some way. And there really aren’t that many separate browser engines: you’ve got Trident (IE), Gecko (Firefox), Webkit (Safari), Presto (Opera), and KHTML (Konqueror). So it’s not that hard to believe that all of the decided on their own to implement keyboard features. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/12 "2009-12-29T14:18:11Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The closest thing I can find is in [Section 508 § 1194.21(a)](http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Content&ID=12#Software), which says that all software **used by the U.S. Federal Government** must have keyboard accessibility. This is what Mozilla [says](http://www.mozilla.org/access/keyboard/proposal) is the reason for the accessibility option in Gecko-based browsers (such as Firefox). Ah, that makes much more sense. > [@](#): > > Honestly I just think it’s because the minority of users who need to those features is large enough that it would be suicide not to support it in some way. And there really aren’t that many separate browser engines: you’ve got Trident (IE), Gecko (Firefox), Webkit (Safari), Presto (Opera), and KHTML (Konqueror). So it’s not that hard to believe that all of the decided on their own to implement keyboard features. Those engines you refer to are all responsible for laying out the page; I would think that navigation would be a purely UI issue left up to the individual browser implementors. (There are often several different browsers that use the same layout engine.) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/13 "2009-12-29T21:15:33Z")
Great info, good to know. I meant “believe” in the “not sure but I think” sense. I know one mechanism pressuring independent developers to comply with accessibility standards is that you can’t get a “written for Windows” logo without being fully compliant. (Those little stickers on the box that boast “written for XP” or “written for Vista” or whatever.) I always kind of assumed that the ADA put pressure on Microsoft to adopt this policy, but from the sound of the cite it looks like it’s voluntary on their part. Good for them, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/14 "2010-02-14T00:24:14Z")
Resurrecting this thread because I stumbled on a way to answer the OP. You need Firefox and the extension called [NextPlease](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/390). It automatically analyzes web pages to figure out how to go to the next page. It includes keyboard shortcuts: [ul][li] **Ctrl + Shift + Left** for _Next_ [/li][li] **Ctrl + Shift + Right** for _Back_[/li][li] **Ctrl + Shift + Up** for _First_[/li][li] **Ctrl + Shift + Down** for _Last_[/li][/ul] For others, what I find really cool is to add in [Mouse Gestures](http://www.mousegestures.org/installation/). Since yoou can create your own gestures, I simulated pressing those keyboard shortcuts mentioned above. Oh, and I notice Opera mentioned above. It has a feature called Fast Forward, which will at least go to the Next page (although I haven’t tested it here). The keyboard shortcut is, get this, the SPACEBAR. ETA: > [@](#): > > Those engines you refer to are all responsible for laying out the page; I would think that navigation would be a purely UI issue left up to the individual browser implementors. (There are often several different browsers that use the same layout engine.) True, but usually, if they use the same browser engine, they go ahead and use the same keyboard shortcuts, unless they are specifically trying to do something different. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/15 "2010-02-14T00:30:28Z")
NETA: Forgot to mention that I’ve tested NextPlease, and it works perfectly well on the SDMB out of the box. ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-goto-next-page-on-sdmb-without-moving-mouse/522477/16 "2010-02-14T10:14:55Z")
This is obviously mouse driven, but I was surprised to find that in an earlier version of Firefox (it must have been somewhere around v3.3 or .4), if you kept scrolling down, the next page would appear, and if you kept on scrolling, you could scroll through as many pages as you wanted. I’m using v3.6, and that feature doesn’t seem to exist any more. Pity.