# Can you guess what a pub's going to be like by the name? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 3, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647 "2005-10-03T21:46:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/21 "2005-10-05T00:46:47Z")
The Hind and Hiney 😕 ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/22 "2005-10-05T06:05:35Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > (are these people who would revere the Dukes of Hazard or similiar?) > and can I just say that they seem to be very um, er–non-British? Nah. They’d revere Wayne Rooney. And the’re _very_ British, by which I mean nowhere else could have understood the joke (rapping in a Welsh accent?!) and still made the band successful. Take a look at their [last video](http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/music/sites/goldielookinchain/pages/your_missus_is_a_nutter.shtml) for a bigger picture. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/23 "2005-10-05T09:28:49Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > I see. > > No idea what bangin’ choons are (it sounds vaguely dirty) and no reference point for the Vauxhall or Cosworths… Ford Cosworths are Ford cars with a Cosworth engine in them, I think. They have better performance than a normal Ford. The car Gorillaman linked to is much too new to be a chav car. It has to be falling apart, yet have alloy wheels, UV underlights and massive speakers with a huge soundsystem to properly qualify. [Bangin’ choons.](http://www.happyhardcore.com/index.asp?bhcp=1) ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/24 "2005-10-05T22:12:42Z")
> [@Dominic Mulligan](#): > > Ford Cosworths are Ford cars with a Cosworth engine in them, I think. They have better performance than a normal Ford. The car Gorillaman linked to is much too new to be a chav car. It has to be falling apart, yet have alloy wheels, UV underlights and massive speakers with a huge soundsystem to properly qualify. My neighbour is a beautiful case of chav-ambition. He fitted a huge exhaust to his Peugeot 206. So big that it got rather close to the plastic bumper, which melted. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/25 "2005-10-05T23:18:47Z")
Can anyone tell me where the word ‘Chav’ comes from? ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/26 "2005-10-06T01:04:11Z")
Back to the OP… 😉 My friend Gerry owned a pub in Co. Leitrim called The Poor Scholar. Pretty much reflected how Gerry had spent much of his life! ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/27 "2005-10-06T01:23:19Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > What about **The Back Door, The Bolt, Buddies, The Tool Box, The Shaft, The Ramrod, The Tunnel, The Cockpit, Bronco’s, The Manhole, Members, Choices, Family, Different Strokes, The Village, or The Rainbow Club?** OK, I give, how the hell dod you pull off that coding? ---
**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/28 "2005-10-06T03:24:34Z")
Yeah, Elmwood, I’m impressed. You didn’t code all of that by hand did you? Yeah, “Neighbors”, “The Eagle”, “Friends,” “Spartacus”, or “the Man Hole” or “Men’s Room” I assume are for Friends of Dorothy or their female counterparts (friends of Toklas?) Rose and Thistle, County Cork, Darby’s etc I know will at least have Guinness and Bass and annoying pipe music on Thursdays. Mercury Lounge, Polka-Dots, The Kitty Kat Klub, Cosmic Club, Space Room, etc will have overpriced beer, including Rainier green death or PBR for 4.50, and spendy cocktails and a bunch of black velvet kitch/ black light/ UFOs and being playing mostly Roxy Music and Dandy Warhols, with college grads who still get carded. Waterhuis an de Bierkant, Onder de Ooievaar, and the Hopduvel will have good Belgian beers. . . ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/29 "2005-10-06T06:33:31Z")
> [@Spectre of Pithecanthropus](#): > > Can anyone tell me where the word ‘Chav’ comes from? It appears it’s of Romany origin, although until googling it I’d never heard of this connection and I’ve never heard of anybody criticising it as a racist term (give it time) - [http://www.worldwidewords.org/topicalwords/tw-cha2.htm](http://www.worldwidewords.org/topicalwords/tw-cha2.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/30 "2005-10-06T07:23:28Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > OK, I give, how the hell did you pull off that coding? You just write a little script that takes a string of text and inserts incremental colour tags. And _The Irish Heather_ was exactly what I expected, (good) as was _The Blarney Stone_ (bad.) ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/31 "2005-10-06T11:46:27Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > It appears it’s of Romany origin, although until googling it I’d never heard of this connection and I’ve never heard of anybody criticising it as a racist term (give it time) - [World Wide Words: Chav](http://www.worldwidewords.org/topicalwords/tw-cha2.htm) I’m sure we could fall back on the bazillion other names for that particular class of people if they do 😉 ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647/32 "2005-10-06T17:35:15Z")
The Rules for Irish pubs (my examples are all real pubs). If named after someone real: usually very good, but full of serious drinkers and men in their 70s. Often a real “local”, and depending on the area, might be a bit rough. e.g. Carrigans’, M J O’Neill’s, Ryan’s, Grace Neill’s, \*Teach \*\* Tadgh If named after someone not real, or a famous landmark: usually not good. e.g. Scruffy Murphy’s, Molly Malone’s, The Blarney Stone, The Kerry Ring etc. If the reason for the obscure name is lost in the mists of time: usually very good. e.g. Bruxelles, The Brazen Head, The Bleeding Horse, The Bird Flanagan, The Nancy Hands If something more cosmopolitan: expect imported beers, variable quality and high prices. e.g. The Metropolitan, Cafe en Seine, Zanzibar, Lillie’s Bordello, The Capitol Bar, Samsara The problem is with the more ambiguous names, if a clue to the interior can’t be gained from the exterior, it’s pot luck. e.g. The Patriot, The Oak, The George Frederick Handel, The Black Lion, The Old Stand - It’s Irish for “House”, so \*Teach \* Tadgh is Tadgh’s House and is a common way of naming pubs after the proprietor in Irish-speaking areas. To continue the hijack: Big up the GLC “My Mrs was lookin’ at your Mrs, so my Mrs battered your Mrs!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-guess-what-a-pubs-going-to-be-like-by-the-name/324647.md?page=1)