# Can you ID the actress in the Steppin' Out video?

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**Created:** [August 8, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185 "2016-08-08T20:29:50Z")\
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Willows?

CSI: Crime Scene Investigation?

It’s Marg Helgenberger, who was about 23 years old when the video was made.

Just watch the video (again)

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Sez one of the YouTube comments: “The girl in this video went on to play the medical examiner in Inspector Morse.”  
FWIW.

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Not Marg. Not even close. But thanks for bumping this. We might yet get to the bottom.

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Sez one of the YouTube comments: “The girl in this video went on to play the medical examiner in Inspector Morse.”  
> FWIW.

Clare Holman? Could be.

> **[Clare Holman | Actress, Director, Writer](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0391600/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t5)**
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> Known for: Blood Diamond, Suite Française, Inspector Lewis

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/45 "2017-01-05T15:55:40Z")

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Nope.[This is Marg Helgenberger in 1982](http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/gallery-shoot-date-march-23-1982-marg-helgenberger-picture-id472929952). Look at her nose. Then look at the nose of the woman in the video…

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Interesting puzzle. She does look familiar - kind of like Carolyn McCormick from _Law & Order_ and _ST:TNG_ ([Carolyn McCormick | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Carolyn_McCormick)), but I don’t think it’s her.

No help here, either:

> **[Steppin' Out (Joe Jackson song)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steppin%27_Out_(Joe_Jackson_song))**
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> "Steppin' Out" is a song by English musician Joe Jackson, originally included on his 1982 album Night and Day. The song, inspired by Jackson's time in New York City, was his highest-charting single in America, where it peaked at number 6 on the Billboard Hot 100. It reached the same position in Jackson's native UK.
> The song is about the anticipation and excitement of a drive out around the town. Released as a single in early August 1982, it became Jackson's biggest hit in the United States, p...

[http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=8172](http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=8172)

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Nope.[This is Marg Helgenberger in 1982](http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/gallery-shoot-date-march-23-1982-marg-helgenberger-picture-id472929952). Look at her nose.

I think I’m in love! :o

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I still say she’s Cynthia Rhodes, who was the dancer in another 1982 music video directed by Steve Barron: [Rosanna](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmOLtTGvsbM).

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I think I’m in love!

You must be thinking of [Eddie Money](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJbBSIFN36k). This thread is related to Joe Jackson.

> [@Sefton](#):
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> I still say she’s Cynthia Rhodes, who was the dancer in another 1982 music video directed by Steve Barron: [Rosanna](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmOLtTGvsbM).

That’s an excellent hypothesis, although it would be odd that she discusses other music videos she’d been in (leading up to her role in _Dirty Dancing_), but not “Steppin’ Out”. She’s retired now, and no longer married to Richard Marx, but they had three kids together. Surely, someone here could cast a wider net that would catch one of those five people and maybe get us some answers!

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> [@Sefton](#):
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> I still say she’s Cynthia Rhodes, who was the dancer in another 1982 music video directed by Steve Barron: [Rosanna](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmOLtTGvsbM).

Could be. You get the best look at her face starting at 1:40 in that video, and with dark hair, I think that just might be her.

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I looked through Steve Barron’s [filmography](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006625/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1#director) on IMDb, and there’s no entry for directing the _Steppin’ Out_ video. Maybe the experience was so tragic that everyone burned the records.

Steve Barron directed the _Take On Me_ video, the _Bille Jean_ video, and the movie _Electric Dreams_. What a guy!

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> [@Sefton](#):
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> I looked through Steve Barron’s [filmography](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006625/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1#director) on IMDb, and there’s no entry for directing the _Steppin’ Out_ video. Maybe the experience was so tragic that everyone burned the records.
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> Steve Barron directed the _Take On Me_ video, the _Bille Jean_ video, and the movie _Electric Dreams_. What a guy!

Don’t canonize him yet. He never did answer my e-mail.

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> [@Sefton](#):
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> I still say she’s Cynthia Rhodes, who was the dancer in another 1982 music video directed by Steve Barron: [Rosanna](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmOLtTGvsbM).

You might be onto something here. There are some good, clear shots of the dancer’s left ear in both videos. Ear structure is a significant identifier and it sure looks like a match to my untrained eyes.  
Although it’s strange that her IMDB entry mentions Rosanna, and not Steppin’ Out.

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Yeah, boy. That’s looking kinda likely.

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I think it’s Cynthia Rhodes too. She was doing music videos in the early '80s.

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Here is Cynthia in _ **Dirty Dancing** _. She has the same brown eyes as the girl in the video:

[https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=AwrB8qEgMm9YoycASHmJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTI0YjNyczd2BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAM3NWQwNDc1MTAxMWVmMThjYTQyYTBmN2QyNmI4NjAzMARncG9zAzI3NQRpdANiaW5n?.origin=&back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dcynthia%2Brhodes%26fr%3Dmcafee%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26nost%3D1%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D275&w=1600&h=1092&imgurl=4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-GULcmkkIuuk%2FU0qGXGvQAOI%2FAAAAAAAAgKA%2FtyhYfkl-xnI%2Fs1600%2FDirtyDancing\_086Pyxurz.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgalleryhip.com%2Fcynthia-rhodes-dirty-dancing.html&size=142.9KB&name=\<b\>Cynthia+Rhodes\<%2Fb\>+Dirty+Dancing+|+galleryhip.com+-+The+Hippest+Galleries!&p=cynthia+rhodes&oid=75d04751011ef18ca42a0f7d26b86030&fr2=piv-web&fr=mcafee&tt=\<b\>Cynthia+Rhodes\<%2Fb\>+Dirty+Dancing+|+galleryhip.com+-+The+Hippest+Galleries!&b=241&ni=21&no=275&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11nu8e7m3&sigb=13e5g21kn&sigi=133shavsv&sigt=12duvdefc&sign=12duvdefc&.crumb=SWv9CnpSWPt&fr=mcafee&fr2=piv-web](https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrB8qEgMm9YoycASHmJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTI0YjNyczd2BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAM3NWQwNDc1MTAxMWVmMThjYTQyYTBmN2QyNmI4NjAzMARncG9zAzI3NQRpdANiaW5n?.origin=&back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dcynthia%2Brhodes%26fr%3Dmcafee%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26nost%3D1%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D275&w=1600&h=1092&imgurl=4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-GULcmkkIuuk%2FU0qGXGvQAOI%2FAAAAAAAAgKA%2FtyhYfkl-xnI%2Fs1600%2FDirtyDancing_086Pyxurz.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgalleryhip.com%2Fcynthia-rhodes-dirty-dancing.html&size=142.9KB&name=%3Cb%3ECynthia+Rhodes%3C%2Fb%3E+Dirty+Dancing+%7C+galleryhip.com+-+The+Hippest+Galleries%21&p=cynthia+rhodes&oid=75d04751011ef18ca42a0f7d26b86030&fr2=piv-web&fr=mcafee&tt=%3Cb%3ECynthia+Rhodes%3C%2Fb%3E+Dirty+Dancing+%7C+galleryhip.com+-+The+Hippest+Galleries%21&b=241&ni=21&no=275&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11nu8e7m3&sigb=13e5g21kn&sigi=133shavsv&sigt=12duvdefc&sign=12duvdefc&.crumb=SWv9CnpSWPt&fr=mcafee&fr2=piv-web)

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Okay, who’s going to contact Cynthia Rhodes and ask her?

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> It’s hard to get a look at her. Joe keeps getting in the way. 😉
> 
> I’m leaning towards Pam Smart as well. I’ll see if my Google-fu is any better than anyone else’s.

It’s not Pam Smart. I can say that with 100% certainty.

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Well, there’s a fan site [facebook page](https://www.facebook.com/cynthiarhodesfanpage/) about Cynthia. If the page’s admin is a big fan, possibly he/she might be able to give some direction as to the likelihood.

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