# Can you ID the actress in the Steppin' Out video? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 8, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185 "2016-08-08T20:29:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/61 "2017-01-06T17:33:14Z")
> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#): > > Well, there’s a fan site [facebook page](https://www.facebook.com/cynthiarhodesfanpage/) about Cynthia. If the page’s admin is a big fan, possibly he/she might be able to give some direction as to the likelihood. I already found that page. Says he’s not affiliated with her in any way, so I don’t know that he’d have any better info than the rest of us. I was thinking more in terms of finding out who used to be Ms. Rhodes’s agent, or do publicity for her. If they’re still in the biz, they might know. ---
**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/62 "2017-01-06T18:46:49Z")
Judging by her IMDb page, Ms. Rhodes has retired from show business. No agent or contact information. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/63 "2017-01-06T23:31:50Z")
What have we done? The video in the OP, which has been up on Youtube for over five years, has now been blocked by Sony Music. Still, do people really think [this woman](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YVJdtttQBHk/maxresdefault.jpg) looks like Cynthia Rhodes? I don’t see a resemblance. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/64 "2017-01-06T23:39:13Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > What have we done? The video in the OP, which has been up on Youtube for over five years, has now been blocked by Sony Music. Here it is from Joe Jackson’s VEVO account, so presumably safer from a copyright claim. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/PJwt2dxx9yg/maxresdefault.jpg "Joe Jackson - Steppin' Out") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJwt2dxx9yg) ---
**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/65 "2017-01-07T01:48:11Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Still, do people really think [this woman](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YVJdtttQBHk/maxresdefault.jpg) looks like Cynthia Rhodes? I don’t see a resemblance. She’s wearing a lot of makeup and the lighting could be better, but yes, I think that woman and [this woman](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0722407/mediaviewer/rm3212117248) are one and the same. ---
**Author:** ![oliversarmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/eb8c5e/32.png) [@oliversarmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oliversarmy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/66 "2017-01-07T05:51:22Z")
Yep, Cynthia Rhodes is MHO. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/67 "2017-01-07T09:50:30Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I was thinking more in terms of finding out who used to be Ms. Rhodes’s agent, or do publicity for her. If they’re still in the biz, they might know. [Richard Marx](https://twitter.com/richardmarx) is on Twitter. If anyone’s willing to ask him about his ex… ---
**Author:** ![Tamara\_La\_Sardaigne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@Tamara\_La\_Sardaigne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamara_La_Sardaigne)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/68 "2017-01-07T11:23:44Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Nope.[This is Marg Helgenberger in 1982](http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/gallery-shoot-date-march-23-1982-marg-helgenberger-picture-id472929952). Look at her nose. Then look at the nose of the woman in the video… You never get a clear front view of the woman’s nose in the video, only her profile. And it isn’t digital, so the quality leaves to be desired… I still think it’s Marg. Unfortunately I cannot post some stills of the video that made me think so. There are photo’s of Cynthia Rhodes (profile) on the internet: > **[Home - Internet • Telephone • Cobalt TV | Hamilton](https://hamilton.net/)** > > Fiber Internet Enjoy a plan that fits your specific home or I don’t think it’s the same nose as the woman in the Joe Jackson video… Marg is on twitter… Anyone here on twitter too? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/69 "2017-01-07T13:49:30Z")
> [@Tamara\_La\_Sardaigne](#): > > You never get a clear front view of the woman’s nose in the video, only her profile. And it isn’t digital, so the quality leaves to be desired… > > I still think it’s Marg. Unfortunately I cannot post some stills of the video that made me think so. > > There are photo’s of Cynthia Rhodes (profile) on the internet: > [Home - Internet • Telephone • Cobalt TV | Hamilton](http://www.nctc.net/hazard/marx/cynthia/media/) > I don’t think it’s the same nose as the woman in the Joe Jackson video… > > Marg is on twitter… Anyone here on twitter too? Oh good; it’s not just me. I don’t think it’s Cynthia Rhodes. The woman in the video has a clearly upturned “pert” nose; Miss Rhodes (is she still “Miss Rhodes” even tho she was married to Richard Marx?) does not have an upturned “pert” nose. ---
**Author:** ![Tamara\_La\_Sardaigne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@Tamara\_La\_Sardaigne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamara_La_Sardaigne)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/70 "2017-01-07T15:29:17Z")
I completely agree (I didn’t know the American-English term). But with age (mid thirties) the tip of the nose drops somewhat, so an upturned nose becomes more straight. Whoever she is, 35 years have passed… The maid at first does seem to look different, but when comparing stills and pictures (or stills of Marg) it’s clear that both have the eyes a little bit farther apart and both have high cheekbones. When the lyrics ‘‘You can dress in pink and blue _just_ like a child’’ are sung, in the split second before the actress starts laughing she has the exact same mannerism Marg has (I don’t know how to call it). That’s why I thought it was her the first time I saw the video. So I still think it’s Marg. But I guess I’m the only one who thinks it’s her…or who thinks it could be her? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/71 "2017-01-09T04:56:41Z")
> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#): > > Well, there’s a fan site [facebook page](https://www.facebook.com/cynthiarhodesfanpage/) about Cynthia. If the page’s admin is a big fan, possibly he/she might be able to give some direction as to the likelihood. I bit the bullet and posted the question on that page. Let’s see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/72 "2017-01-09T05:27:15Z")
Hey! It’s Mrs. Bevin, from the lake!! . . . . . No, just kidding. ---
**Author:** ![Passingby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Passingby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Passingby)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/73 "2017-02-11T06:04:31Z")
Jessica Lange? [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/50/94/8a/50948a228a78d99c549a13bb414afa1e.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/50/94/8a/50948a228a78d99c549a13bb414afa1e.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/74 "2017-02-11T17:16:27Z")
I found a Pop Up Video [transcript](http://www.mondaypapers.com/popupvideo.html) and even it doesn’t ID her (just refers to her as “Actress”) and that was probably written and researched just 10 years or so after the video came out… ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/75 "2017-02-11T22:44:16Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I found a Pop Up Video [transcript](http://www.mondaypapers.com/popupvideo.html) and even it doesn’t ID her (just refers to her as “Actress”) and that was probably written and researched just 10 years or so after the video came out… Hence we can rule out anybody remotely famous. E.g., Jessica Lange. (Plus she was in _Frances_ and _Tootsie_ in 1982. She was _really_ well known then.) It’s not that hard to find cites to Nichole Kidman appearing in [_Bop Girl_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svSOepHyPvc). And that’s quite obscure. ---
**Author:** ![Kimble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimble/32/19185_2.png) [@Kimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimble)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/76 "2017-02-12T00:11:20Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Sez one of the YouTube comments: “The girl in this video went on to play the medical examiner in Inspector Morse.” > FWIW. > [@terentii](#): > > Clare Holman? Could be. > > [Clare Holman - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0391600/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t5) A commenter on the Vevo video said it was a different medical examiner in _Inspector Morse_ – [Amanda Hillwood](http://www.aveleyman.com/ActorCredit.aspx?ActorID=19672). She doesn’t seem to have the nose of the maid, but Hillwood has a mole/beauty mark/something to the left of her lip that the maid might have. The video’s in low resolution, but I can convince myself I see the bump in a few of the shots. However, I would guess the maid is left-handed, based on her cleaning the mantle and ashtray (filmed in a mirror), grabbing the glass on Joe’s dresser, and spinning clockwise in her room. [Hillwood isn’t](https://youtu.be/jTDB1Pmlrpk?t=2m44s). So, I’ve no clue. Sorry! ---
**Author:** ![patty5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@patty5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/patty5)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/77 "2017-02-12T04:22:17Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > All of these ladies bear a strong resemblance, but I don’t think we’ve found her yet. > T > Ah, well…perhaps some things are not meant to be known. That is not Cynthia Rhodes if you all would get on Google and type in pics of Cynthia Rhodes you will see that she bares no resemblance of the maid in Joe Jackson’s video Steppin Out. Cynthia Rhodes did star in Toto’s music video Rosanna go watch it. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/78 "2017-02-13T04:04:58Z")
> [@patty5](#): > > That is not Cynthia Rhodes if you all would get on Google and type in pics of Cynthia Rhodes you will see that she \*\*bares \*\*no resemblance of the maid in Joe Jackson’s video Steppin Out. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Pizza1701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@Pizza1701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pizza1701)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/79 "2017-02-25T16:06:08Z")
I went to school with her in Rockland County NY. She graduated 2 years before me. My best memory is her first name is Jeannie. When she was younger she was a model for Sears and other catalogs. She did commercials (I’m not aware of any TV or movie rolls) such as this Canon Typewriter one [1984 Canon Typewriter Commercial - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K2n0YFjGrw) a shampoo commercial (not sure which one) and a Log Cabin syrup when she was very young. Best that I can remember. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-id-the-actress-in-the-steppin-out-video/762185/80 "2017-02-25T17:54:07Z")
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