# Can you really get high on morning glory seeds/ nutmeg?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 11, 2002, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250 "2002-11-11T06:23:04Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/21 "2012-12-27T18:41:21Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> Ten years old.  
> Happy birthday, zombie thread.

Argggh. Sorry.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/22 "2012-12-27T18:54:50Z")

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Many mystical experiences to had on morning glories, most had 1000 seeds at most. Nausea at start and heavy body-load similar to 2c-e and the nbomes

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/23 "2012-12-27T19:00:18Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Jesus!:rolleyes:
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> I tried nutmeg in the mid-seventies. A guy would think that by now it would be common knowledge that trying to get high on nutmeg will get you so sick you’ll think you’re going to die, and afraid you won’t! It’s one of the most f\*cked up illnesses I ever had. Truely miserable!

I have a friend who tells a story (so take it with a grain of salt, though I have no reason to disbelieve him) that his girlfriend-at-the-time (now wife) made some dessert for him and completely misread the quantity of nutmeg called for and, being a dutiful boyfriend, he scarfed down the dessert. He said it was a miserable experience that involved a trip to the hospital: hot flashes, vomiting, elevated pulse, irritability and nervousness. Whatever it was, it did not sound like a fun trip.

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**Author:** ![C6541](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90db22/32.png) [@C6541](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C6541)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/24 "2012-12-27T19:16:43Z")

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Nutmeg is more deliriant than psychedelic, similar to atropine or dihenhydramine. Deliriants are not especially noted for being “fun.”

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/25 "2012-12-27T23:01:37Z")

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When I was in highschool, my friends and I were always looking for ways to get high, so we tried nutmeg once. I can definitively say: yes, it gets you high. The more pertinent question is: is it worth it? No. God no.

In fact, I don’t know if I would call it getting ‘high’ as so much as food poisoning. It starts with an intense pressure building up behind your eye, then your eyes dry out and they start itching constantly, so your eyes become blood red. You get a light headed feeling and your thoughts start scattering, akin to smoking pot. There is one major distinction between marijuana and nutmeg, though; the high is INCREDIBLY uncomfortable. Plus, it lasts WAY too long. I remember it lasting approximately a day and after about an hour, you start hoping it’ll go away soon. It’s not fun at all. I highly recommend against it.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/26 "2012-12-28T02:48:06Z")

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Long ago my brother and I tried to Get High on nutmeg. It was extremely hard to get down in large quantity. We tried to disguise it in various liquids, but it became ever more obvious and repellent. My brother managed to swallow enough to get some psychedelic effects; I just took enough to feel miserable and physically polluted for the next three days.

I was never tempted to try it again, apart from sprinkling on eggnog.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/27 "2012-12-28T07:19:54Z")

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Re nutmeg it’s reputed to be about the worst high in the world, and make you feel like you eaten by a wolf and shit over a cliff afterwards. The best description was the floating delirium you feel when you’re sick with flu. What’s not to like?

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**Author:** ![janeslogin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@janeslogin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janeslogin)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/28 "2012-12-28T18:06:05Z")

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There are at least ten genera of ‘‘morning glory’’. Which seed do you use?

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/29 "2012-12-28T18:23:59Z")

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> [@janeslogin](#):
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> There are at least ten genera of ‘‘morning glory’’. Which seed do you use?

The rumor decades ago was that you wanted the “heavenly blue” variety. This is a variety of Ipomoea tricolor, and [wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_glory) has this to say:

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> The seeds of many species of morning glory contain ergoline alkaloids such as the psychedelic ergonovine and ergine (LSA). Seeds of Ipomoea tricolor and Turbina corymbosa (syn. R. corymbosa) are used as psychedelics. The seeds of morning glory can produce a similar effect to LSD when taken in large doses, often numbering into the hundreds. Though the chemical LSA is not legal in some countries, the seeds are found in many gardening stores; however, the seeds from commercial sources are often coated in some form of pesticide or methylmercury. [3] These coatings are especially dangerous if one has a history of liver disorders and may also cause neurological damage.

I believe the ones most gardeners would plant and recognize as “morning glories” are in the Ipomoea genus.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-get-high-on-morning-glory-seeds-nutmeg/136250/30 "2012-12-28T18:51:34Z")

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Ipomoea tricolor are the preferred although its been stipulated that ipomoea purpera have about half the alkaloid weight of tricolor (based on successful acid/base extracts and luminescence under ultraviolet or whatever), which would mean one would have to eat a lot.

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