# Can you source this ghost picture?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 11, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026 "2006-11-11T18:29:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/1 "2006-11-11T18:29:07Z")

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Back in college (about…yeesh, 8 years ago), a man came to our school that was a quasi-professional ghost debunker; we was a hardcore skeptic who investigated spook lights, mystery spots, hauntings, etc. Anyway, he said that only two pictures of “ghosts” had ever shocked him, and he showed us one of them. It was a very “swirly” ghost on a staircase, but damn, it was one of the scariest things I’ve ever seen. Does anyone know the picture? Is it famous?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/2 "2006-11-11T18:39:31Z")

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Was it the [Brown Lady of Raynham Hall](http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa101402a.htm)? It’s pretty famous over here, and has allegedly stood up to whatever scrutiny it’s been subjected to.

(And clearly faked, IMO.)

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/3 "2006-11-11T18:39:50Z")

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The “[Brown Lady](http://www.proofparanormal.com/famousandclassicghostpictures.html)”, photographed at Raynham Hall in England in 1936. It looks like an easily faked double exposure of someone wearing a sheet, but reportedly several people present during the shooting saw the apparition.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/4 "2006-11-11T18:42:51Z")

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Yes, I think that’s it. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/5 "2006-11-11T18:55:52Z")

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If you want more info, there’s a brief article about this photo in the Nov. 2006 issue of the Fortean Times.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/6 "2006-11-11T19:05:45Z")

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The Brown Lady Of Raynham Hall?

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There was an analysis of the photo in a recent _Fortean Times_

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/7 "2006-11-11T19:06:56Z")

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Darn, spent some time looking for the FT for the article.

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/8 "2006-11-11T19:14:07Z")

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There is at least one other similar photo that I know of: the Gray Lady of Liberty Hall taken in Frankfort, Kentucky. Both photos (Gray and Brown) are discussed briefly in Joe Nickell’s _Camera Clues_ pp 156-58.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/9 "2006-11-11T19:18:51Z")

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Oh, BTW, I think it’s actually the _October_ issue (#215), which I can’t seem to find right now.

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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/10 "2006-11-11T19:24:26Z")

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It is #215–but #215 is the November issue, not the October one. It’s the one with the Star Trek cover story.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/11 "2006-11-11T20:08:58Z")

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Strange, my copy of #216 (cover story Stone Age Story) is dated Nov 2006.

Maybe its dated differently for the overseas edition, or something.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-source-this-ghost-picture/380026/12 "2006-11-11T20:17:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Peter Morris]  
Strange, my copy of #216 (cover story Stone Age Story) is dated Nov 2006.

Maybe its dated differently for the overseas edition, or something.  
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I think it is, and the covers are often different too.
