# Can you tell masterpieces from junk?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 24, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138 "2013-10-24T17:54:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Don\_Simus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@Don\_Simus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Simus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/1 "2013-10-24T17:54:48Z")

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Can you tell the best writer from the worst one, masterpieces of art from doodles, famous musicians from unknown ones, a genius from an idiot? Take these quizzes to find out:

[http://reverent.org/quizzes.html](http://reverent.org/quizzes.html)

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/2 "2013-10-24T18:16:04Z")

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58% on real or fake  
92% on known or unknown artist  
100% on Pollock or birds  
80% on Vermeer  
75% on Michelangelo  
60% on Mozart/Salieri (better than I thought)

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/3 "2013-10-24T18:20:29Z")

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I just tried one: true art or fake. Got 11/12. Didn’t recognize any of them explicitly, but I could tell who the artist was on three or four.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/4 "2013-10-24T18:27:36Z")

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Apparently, I know a Mondrian and a Rothco when I see them, but not a Klee or a Kandinsky.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/5 "2013-10-24T18:27:42Z")

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I did the Dickens or Bulwer-Lytton and the Great or Commercial writer, and scored 58% on both. Stephen King is kinda easy to spot.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/6 "2013-10-24T18:37:13Z")

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**100% artist or ape?** It was fairly obvious.  
**100% Pollock or bird shit?** Also pretty obvious.  
**75% Donald Judd or cheap furniture?** A bit tougher. Mostly I recognize IKEA crap when I see it.  
**67% Abstract artist or animal?** Mostly just guessing.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/7 "2013-10-24T18:43:01Z")

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I can’t even tell heaven from hell, blue skies from pain. So I don’t think I’d do well on those tests.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Simus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@Don\_Simus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Simus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/8 "2013-10-25T01:17:47Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> 60% on Mozart/Salieri (better than I thought)

And how much did you expect?

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/9 "2013-10-25T01:24:40Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> I can’t even tell heaven from hell, blue skies from pain. So I don’t think I’d do well on those tests.

Pink from Floyd?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/10 "2013-10-25T01:51:08Z")

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> [@Don\_Simus](#):
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> And how much did you expect?

Didn’t expect to crack 40%.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/11 "2013-10-25T02:05:13Z")

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I see they categorize Adolph Hitler, Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower as unknown artists.:dubious:

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/12 "2013-10-25T02:08:09Z")

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I only got 67% on famous artist or unknown artist, but I got 100% on Jackson Pollock or bird droppings! 😃

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/13 "2013-10-25T13:38:25Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> I see they categorize Adolph Hitler, Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower as unknown artists.:dubious:

Because they’re mostly known for other things, like WWII. It was in all the papers.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/14 "2013-10-25T16:45:19Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I just tried one: true art or fake. Got 11/12. Didn’t recognize any of them explicitly, but I could tell who the artist was on three or four.

Me too. The only one I missed was a kind of out-of-focus multicolor picture.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/15 "2013-10-25T16:50:25Z")

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80% on Vermeer vs Meerhagen. One of them I had trouble forming an opinion on and ended up guessing wrong; mostly the rest felt obvious, though I was definitely fooled once.

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/16 "2013-10-25T16:52:37Z")

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I just feel it necessary to point out a quick fact: just because I can tell Pollack from bird droppings doesn’t mean they aren’t both crap. For example, I can tell the difference between bullshit and bird dropping, but not between bullshit and Pollack. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/17 "2013-10-25T16:57:04Z")

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There are too many. If I started, I’d kill the morning. But I have to say that seeing “Machine Translation or Faulkner” cracked me up.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/18 "2013-10-25T18:33:08Z")

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67% on real or fake  
75% on known or unknown artist  
83% ape or artist  
100% on Pollock or birds

At least I know bird shit.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Simus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@Don\_Simus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Simus)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/19 "2013-10-26T03:04:42Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Didn’t expect to crack 40%.

Probably you got used to multiple choice tests with many possible answers. However, this test has only two choices. Thus simple random guessing gives 50%.

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**Author:** ![tullsterx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tullsterx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tullsterx)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-tell-masterpieces-from-junk/672138/20 "2013-10-26T05:26:01Z")

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Absurd tests. There is no difference between abstract art and ape shite spread on a canvas by ferrets. Without any meaningful structure all sense of value and meaning is created by the individual observer. And if many individuals derive value and meaning from a particular work of abstract art, that still does not mean it is not ape shite spread on a canvas by ferrets.

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