# Canada and the Coronavirus **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [March 30, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643 "2020-03-30T05:02:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/304 "2020-11-25T21:48:51Z")
Since I doubt you’re any more an expert than the economist, sounds kinda like a chore for nothing. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/305 "2020-11-25T22:08:43Z")
Unlike the economist, I actually published both the data and the sources. But hey, you do you, Helmut. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/306 "2020-11-25T23:12:59Z")
You know, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that I don’t feel like a big database dive to sort out an disagreement between amateur epidimeologists. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/307 "2020-11-25T23:58:04Z")
A _lot_ of people will be looking at that data, since it is relevant to many. Some of these people will be more skilled than I. If a retraction is in order, this will surely become clear in the NYT shortly. And since it is relevant to many, perhaps one should be communicating with that paper, not kibitzing here? ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/308 "2020-11-26T00:09:05Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > And since it is relevant to many, perhaps one should be communicating with that paper, not kibitzing here? You posted it on this board (in another thread, so feel free to move this there), so I replied on this board. You used it to make an argument, so I showed that the data was wrong to counter the argument. You can now show why my work was mistaken, ignore it and pretend that it doesn’t exist, or acknowledge that it appears to show that her piece was flawed. > [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > If a retraction is in order, this will surely become clear in the NYT shortly. For fucks sake, people. It wasn’t the NYT, it was the Washington Post (and it’s your own damned cite). It was also an op-ed, so I’m pretty sure that the Post (not to be confused with The New York Times, who probably also don’t give a shit about demonstrations of the inaccuracy of some op-ed) could give two shits about the accuracy thereof. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/309 "2020-11-26T00:19:41Z")
You could be right, but I’m just not going to go through the data, intentionally provided, when others to whom this issue is much more highly relevant will do so. Newspapers do care about accuracy, if only for legal reasons, and retract things frequently. I have no reason to disbelieve you, but the conclusions of the article make sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/310 "2020-11-30T18:38:19Z")
The news of Covid spikes is worrisome: > **[Canada has twice as many active COVID-19 cases as it did on Nov. 1](https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canada-has-twice-as-many-active-covid-19-cases-as-it-did-on-nov-1-1.5209320)** > > The number of active COVID-19 cases in Canada has more than doubled in November, as the total number of Canadians infected by the novel coronavirus since the start of the pandemic nears one per cent of the country's population. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/311 "2020-11-30T18:40:55Z")
And this news from Mississauga: > **[Bylaw officers issue thousands of dollars in fines after people pack...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-police-mississauga-house-party-fines-1.5821306)** > > Peel police say city bylaw officers have doled out thousands of dollars in fines after around 60 people attended a party at a short term rental unit in Mississauga, Ont. > [@](#): > > Const. Kyle Villers, spokesperson for Peel Regional Police, said 27 people who were considered guests at the party were given $880 tickets under the Reopening Ontario Act of 2020 for violating limits on gatherings. > > Two people who hosted the party received a summons that carries a minimum $10,000 fine under the same act. The two are accused of failing to comply a continued section 7.0.2 order. > > Of the 27 guests, two refused to identify themselves and police arrested and charged them with obstruction of justice, a criminal offence. The two were taken to a police station and were scheduled to attend a bail hearing on Sunday, he said. > > Villers said the house is short-term rental unit and the party-goers were young adults. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/312 "2020-12-01T14:57:32Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > For fucks sake, people. It wasn’t the NYT, it was the Washington Post (and it’s your own damned cite). It was also an op-ed, so I’m pretty sure that the Post (not to be confused with The New York Times, who probably also don’t give a shit about demonstrations of the inaccuracy of some op-ed) could give two shits about the accuracy thereof. **Moderator Note** Dial it back. Let’s keep things civil in this forum. Colibri QZ Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/313 "2020-12-03T15:43:27Z")
Things don’t like good for Alberta: > **[Alberta planning COVID-19 field hospitals for 750 patients, internal document...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-planning-covid-19-field-hospitals-for-750-patients-internal-document-shows-1.5826336)** > > An internal Alberta government document shows the province has been planning for more than a week to set up indoor field hospitals to treat 750 COVID-19 patients. And then there’s this: > **[‘Dozens’ infected with COVID-19 after B.C. oldtimers’ hockey team travels to...](https://globalnews.ca/news/7498626/bc-hockey-team-alberta-covid-cluster/)** > > Provincial health officer Dr. Bonny Henry used the case as an example, while again urging British Columbians to forego all non-essential travel. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/314 "2020-12-03T16:44:49Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Dial it back. Let’s keep things civil in this forum. My apologies. It felt like I was banging my head against a wall, but that was based on seeing misattributions across multiple threads, so I definitely should have shown greater understanding. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/315 "2020-12-04T01:02:56Z")
What a bloody shame (the hockey team) but I personally disagree with Dr Henry’s statement that “Nobody intended to do this". But that’s just my opinion based on hearing about too many people who aren’t prepared to make the great sacrifice of sitting at home and binge watching Netflix ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/316 "2020-12-08T22:05:37Z")
I agree with you. Essentially that’s like commenting on a guy who downed 8 shots of vodka, drove home and ran over a neighbour. “Oh, he didn’t intend on doing this, let’s be nice to him.” ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/317 "2020-12-09T17:37:32Z")
Breaking news: Health Canada has approved the use of the Pfizer vaccine and expects to start using it in nursing homes by the end of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/318 "2020-12-09T18:39:42Z")
Alberta has finally gone for a fairly serious lockdown. Given that their 7 day average new case rate is the highest in the country and rising, it’s about time. Good column by Don Braid in the Calgary Herald - basically he says that the province had no choice, because of all the selfish people who refused to voluntarily follow the guidance. They only have themselves to blame. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/319 "2020-12-09T19:18:55Z")
Because freedom! Honestly, many of my fellow Albertans resemble people from the Southern US than their fellow Canadians. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/320 "2020-12-09T21:27:13Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > What a bloody shame (the hockey team) but I personally disagree with Dr Henry’s statement that “Nobody intended to do this". But that’s just my opinion based on hearing about too many people who aren’t prepared to make the great sacrifice of sitting at home and binge watching Netflix Some of us live alone and have mental health issues that at being exacerbated by staying home all the time. Even my therapy is now a video visit. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/321 "2020-12-09T21:30:21Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Breaking news: Health Canada has approved the use of the Pfizer vaccine and expects to start using it in nursing homes by the end of the week. For what it’s worth, the news I heard this morning was skeptical about the prospect of quickly deploying vaccines in long-term care homes because of the requirement for low temperature storage. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/322 "2020-12-09T21:32:21Z")
That’s a fantastic analogy and IMO really drives home just how negligent, selfish and irresponsible this was. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643/323 "2020-12-09T21:45:54Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > For what it’s worth, the news I heard this morning was skeptical about the prospect of quickly deploying vaccines in long-term care homes because of the requirement for low temperature storage. I am skeptical of this news you heard that was skeptical. Pfizer says their vaccine can be stored up to 5 days at refrigerator temps (2-8C). I can’t imagine how it would be overly difficult to administer a batch of vaccines at a LTC facility within 5 days. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-and-the-coronavirus/850643.md?page=17)