# Canada: GovGen dissolves Parliament, Carney drops the writ, and the election is on! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 23, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985 "2025-03-23T19:20:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/181 "2025-04-09T00:24:38Z")
Ignore wrong info. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/182 "2025-04-09T00:27:26Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Who are May and Pedneault, and why are they lumped together in that poll? They are unofficial co-leaders of the Green Party because their constitution has no provisions for such a thing. Elizabeth May was the leader and only elected member for a long time. She stepped down as leader a few years ago and the party selected a woman named Anamie Paul as the leader. That quickly devolved into a shit show as they turned on Paul, a Jewish woman of colour, and forced her out. May stepped back into the role and had a different co-leader who stepped down. They’re basically a mess and would give Jill Stein a run for her money as spoilers. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/183 "2025-04-09T00:27:43Z")
They’re co-leaders of the Green party. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/184 "2025-04-09T00:30:23Z")
> [@FinsToTheLeft](#): > > That quickly devolved into a shit show as they turned on Paul, a Jewish woman of colour, and forced her out Plus forcing out a Jewish party président. But they’re not anti-Semites, heaven forbid. They just don’t like Jews in a position of power and impose loyalty tests on them that they don’t impose on other party members. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/185 "2025-04-09T00:34:47Z")
Check out [the current Liberal numbers in Alberta](https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/) > Polling averages as of Apr. 8, 2025 ``` LIB 31.1% CON 55.1% NDP 9.3% GRN 1.5% PPC 2.2% OTH 0.9% ``` Preston Manning trying to scare Central and Atlantic Canadians with a wave of Western Separatism from these numbers? If Carney wins his majority, Alberta will have helped him get there! Ha. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/186 "2025-04-09T00:59:11Z")
Yeah. Trudeau was despised here in Alberta, but with him stepping down, and Carney taking over, the word I’ve been hearing informally is, “PP is too Trumpian for my tastes, and Carney is obviously more intelligent than Trudeau, so … hmmm …” Nobody (except die-hard Conservatives) is saying they’re definitely voting for anybody, but Albertans, at least those I’ve spoken with informally, are thinking. And western separatism is a non-issue; though again, that’s from what I hear on the ground here. I see online where some are convinced that we’ll have a referendum on separation sometime during Danielle Smith’s term, but they don’t have cites, so as a Doper, I ignore such remarks. Besides, most everybody I know here knows we have a good thing going within Canada, and were we to separate, we’d be in the same position as Bolivia: dependent on the kindness of neighbours to get our goods to market. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/187 "2025-04-09T01:04:16Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > … dependent on the kindness of neighbours to get our goods to market. How is that different than the way it is now? ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/188 "2025-04-09T01:41:15Z")
Also its worth hearing [Manning out in his own words](https://youtu.be/ELguPorT5pA?t=102) (CBC radio interview today). > All I was saying in my OpEd is that if that sentiment is out there. Some mechanism should be provided for that question to be dealt with in an orderly democratic forum; and what I proposed was a Canada West constitutional conference as soon as possible after the election. > > - If there’s a genuinely new administration in Ottawa then that conference would work on what can be done. What can the west do to help repair the damage that has been done by the Liberals over the next (last?) nine years. > - If the Liberals are returned, then that would be a forum for dealing then what are the options for the west; which would include this secession option. He’s clearly threatening secession and comes off even more deluded imo. Angry that the Liberals are pulling a new mandate out of their ass due to Carney and external matters. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/189 "2025-04-09T01:44:33Z")
Sure, but that’s not what I asked. _Seeing Things_ and _Wayne and Shuster_ wete entertaining shows too. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/190 "2025-04-09T01:50:39Z")
I’m very reluctant to consider people or places monolithic. It would be easy to see Edmonton voting Liberal, and High Prairie doing otherwise. The fact the Libs have double diguts in Alberta at all is a change. I do not think PP would be a terrible leader. However, losing JT seemed to flatten his feet, Trump is not the only issue facing Canada, and much of Carney’s agenda was cynically borrowed from Pierre, who I gather has been slow to listen to advisors. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/191 "2025-04-09T05:50:09Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > How is that different than the way it is now? It’s different because Bolivia depends on other independent and sovereign countries to get its goods to market. Alberta doesn’t; as a Canadian province, it can ship things through Canada. Those things might not always be wanted by the provinces they are shipped through (e.g. pipelines and oil), but there is typically no need to ask permission of a foreign government to transport Albertan goods through a foreign jurisdiction. There are interprovincial trade barriers, but I think that with Trump’s tariffs, the provinces are rethinking those. “Why is it easier to sell our goods to a foreign buyer than it is to sell to fellow Canadians?” That sort of thing. It is a simplistic approach, but the silliness of our barriers to true interprovincial trade deserves another look (cf. _R v. Comeau_, 2018 SCC 15). I’ll certainly be asking the candidates and/or their representatives who show up at my door, about breaking down barriers to interprovincial trade. > [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I’m very reluctant to consider people or places monolithic. It would be easy to see Edmonton voting Liberal, and High Prairie doing otherwise. The fact the Libs have double diguts in Alberta at all is a change. Same here. I did live in Edmonton for a few years, in a neighbourhood that could easily go Liberal in this election, especially given recent events. The idea that _all_ Albertans believe, think, say, and want the same things, especially Conservative ones, is silly. As you imply, Albertans are not monolithic, and some (many?) of us are definitely not what Canadians and foreigners believe us to be. I think the Tories will get a majority of seats in Alberta, but not all. As I mentioned, Carney’s ascension is making some Albertans think twice. ---
**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/192 "2025-04-09T08:58:05Z")
[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMAM-3gKEETzdskQ1sz7zYMXUSgPn1jeG6u-yp6q_AtwT05c3WAN3DZvYS8lyLSJ4ZTmQAPOKyZgoY0gHAnyzQPqS_uKZi_fn1-X0SqvUgz5JL8ncI=w600-h315-p-k "New item by David Seven") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/oXH7FZmmou6hvxko8) Projected seat count at Apr 8th …173 for majority. 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/193 "2025-04-09T13:37:19Z")
Where’s that from? It’s higher on the libs than I’ve seen from 338 or CBC. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/194 "2025-04-09T16:26:57Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Nice to see they’re still obsessed with the important issues, that being socks. The bizarre failure to understand what this election is about isn’t limited to the Tories. My sister used to work for the NDP. She’s moved into a position in the civil service, but still obviously has many contacts in the NDP. In her riding the NDP candidate is really focusing on… the fact Carney hasn’t committed to expanding pharmacare. My sis tried to explain to her NDP contacts that no one gives two random fucks about that, that the issue people are really worried about now is defending ourselves from the American lunacy. They were apparently very confused by that. The Liberals get that fact. And if you’d like to know why the NDP has lost over half their support, well, there you go. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/195 "2025-04-09T16:28:37Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Where’s that from? It’s higher on the libs than I’ve seen from 338 or CBC. It’s likely one poll, while 338 and CBC aggregate and analyze polls. CBC has the Grits up to 201; 338 is more cautious at 191. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/196 "2025-04-09T16:31:45Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > In her riding the NDP candidate is really focusing on… the fact Carney hasn’t committed to expanding pharmacare. And if the NDP were polling such that they’d likely be getting over a hundred seats, I’d worry about that 😃 Otherwise, there’s more important things to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/197 "2025-04-09T16:59:38Z")
CBC screen grab [https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6715014](https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6715014) Votes getting lock in > **[Most Canadians say they've decided how they'll vote in the election: poll](https://www.ctvnews.ca/federal-election-2025/article/most-canadians-say-theyve-decided-how-theyll-vote-in-the-election-poll/)** > > Midway through the federal election campaign, a new poll suggests most Canadians have already made up their minds. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/198 "2025-04-09T17:16:48Z")
From that CTV article: > [@](#): > > The poll suggests an increasing number of Canadians think the Liberals will win the next election — and more of them are now saying Liberal Leader Mark Carney is running the best campaign. > > More than half of Canadians polled (52 per cent) said they think the Liberal party will win the next election. Twenty-seven per cent said they think the Conservatives will win; just two per cent picked the NDP. In articles about election polling, I’ve seen comments that asking people who they think will win is one of the best predictors of the outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/199 "2025-04-10T01:39:25Z")
And I’ve got my voter card in the post today, with info about the advance polls, voting day, and where I vote. In addition to the advance polls and voting day poll, I can go to the office of the local returning officer, which is open 7 days a week, 9 to 5, until the election, and vote there. We need ID as well. Here’s what Elections Canada says are acceptable IDs: > [@](#): > > ## Option 1: Show one of these pieces of ID > > - your driver’s licence > - any other card issued by a Canadian government (federal, provincial/territorial or local) with your photo, name and current address (at the provincial election last fall, one guy didn’t have his driver’s licence, but he had a photo id from the Sask Liquor and Gaming Authority, which was accepted.) If you don’t have photo id, you need two pieces of non-photo id: > [@](#): > > ## Option 2: Show two pieces of ID > > Both must have your name and at least one must have your current address. > > Examples: > > - voter information card and bank statement > - utility bill and student ID card > > Don’t have these? No problem! > > See the [list of accepted ID](https://www.elections.ca/content2.aspx?section=id&document=index&lang=e#list) for Option 2. (see the long list of acceptable ID for Option 2 by clicking on the link) And if you don’t have any of those ID, you can declare yourself a voter, provided someone else who has ID can vouch for you: > [@](#): > > ## Option 3: If you don’t have ID > > You can still vote if you declare your identity and address in writing and have someone who knows you and who is assigned to your polling station vouch for you. > > The voucher must be able to prove their identity and address. A person can vouch for only one person (except in long-term care facilities). It’s almost as if the politicians in Canada who are responsible for election law want to make it easy for people to vote. 😉 ---
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> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > It’s almost as if the politicians in Canada who are responsible for election law want to make it easy for people to vote Good grief, your elections must be riddled with voter fraud! /s [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985.md?page=11)