# Canada: GovGen dissolves Parliament, Carney drops the writ, and the election is on!

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [March 23, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985 "2025-03-23T19:20:24Z")\
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Canadians are well aware how much of our trade is with the United Stares. Most of us have friends or family there. Plenty of Canadians own property or vacation there. Trump is not very popular (\<10%, generally people who like his response to a single issue very important to them), but no one thinks being explicitly anti-Trump or anti-American would be a smart public political stance regardless of what people say privately. (A compliment followed by a dis is the usual technique.)

For example, Trudeau: **Trump is very smart guy**. I don’t often agree with the Wall Street Journal. But the WSJ calked this a very dumb trade war, and it is a dumb trade war…..” (and this followed repeatedly being called Governor, etc.)

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> PP is the shorten form, and PeePee is the derogative form.

Oh, I’ve got much more derogatory names for Pierre…

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To be fair, it is only Liberals who call the Liberals “the Natural Governing Party of Canada”.

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> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> Not saying it would happen but could the Republican party stand for election? When would they have to put forward their candidates?

Quislings, you mean?

The nomination papers have to be filed in about two weeks, on a candidate by candidate basis in each riding.

They would need to find about 200 Quslings in each riding to sign the papers for that riding candidate.

I think it’s likely too late to register the Republican Party with the Chief Electoral Officer, so there would not be any party affiliation for them on the ballot. They would have to get their affiliation known by campaigning.

There are strict limits on how much a candidate can spend in their campaign in a riding, and on how much they can accept in donations. Of course, if they are true Trumpists that will mean nothing and they will break the law, I would predict.

And of course we all know what happened to old Vidkun after the war.

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> To be fair, it is only Liberals who call the Liberals “the Natural Governing Party of Canada”.

It was the media and academe who came up with that nickname.

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It’s an interesting “feature” of Canadian politics that a separatist party aiming for partition of Canada elects members to the Federal Gov only from within their province…can you say Canadians are “tolerant” 🤪

Any we are not talking a few either…33 seats out of 170 for a majority so can easily be balance of power

> **[Bloc Québécois](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloc_Qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois)**
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> The Bloc Québécois (\[blɔk kebekwa\], lit. 'Quebec Bloc', BQ) is a federal political party in Canada devoted to Quebecois nationalism and the promotion of Quebecois sovereignty. The Bloc was formed by Members of Parliament (MPs) who defected from the federal Progressive Conservative Party and Liberal Party during the collapse of the Meech Lake Accord. Founder Lucien Bouchard had been a cabinet minister in the federal Progressive Conservative government of Brian Mulroney.
> The Bloc seeks to creat...

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> [@MacDoc](#):
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> I prefer paper boy for Poliever …Pee Pee very juvenile and PP not far off tho better.

I prefer Peter Rabbitskin.

The election is going to be decided on who can best resist Trump. There is no other issue that matters, even if PP thinks there is.

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> I’m thinking the main issue will be who can be the most anti-American… or maybe just anti-Trump.

There has always been an undercurrent of anti-Americanism in Canada. Not always very strong, but always there, in my experience.

Trump unleashed it. Anti-Trumpism is anti-Americanism, and vice versa. No matter how much some people talk about “we’re not booing the US, we’re booing your government”, I don’t believe it. We’re angry with the United States. Full stop. And we don’t care to hear some Americans try to wash their hands by saying they didn’t vote for Trump. The American people chose him as their leader. That’s all that matters.

It took our two countries about a century and a half (starting after your Civil War) to build one of the strongest, most reliable national friendships and alliances in the world.

Trump has destroyed it in just two months.

I don’t see it coming back in my lifetime.

Everything Trump touches dies.

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Unless you can point to a specific origin, I’m going with my theory.

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I don’t believe it. We’re angry with the United States. Full stop. And we don’t care to hear some Americans try to wash their hands by saying they didn’t vote for Trump. The American people chose him as their leader.

Personally, I respectfully disagree. I was in the RCN for 32 years and interactions with American exchange officers in Canadian units, or with America military personnel on trips in the US, or with some US tourists in Canada and Europe, have generally been extremely positive.

Having said that, I frigging despise the xenophobic, toxic, ignorant BS of the MAGA set.

So no, I loathe the whole Trump admin and the MAGAts and their supporters and enablers. And I will not trust that country again for a long, long time. But I don’t harbour resentment to US folks except for those who I know did this to the world.

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Where does Peter Rabbitskin come from 🤨

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> [@velomont](#):
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> I loathe the whole Trump admin and the MAGAts and their supporters and enablers.

I’m with you on that.

Although I would be willing to bet most MAGA have no antagonism at all towards Canada. They were voting to own US libs. And this came along with it.

They should have known better but in the MAGA zeal to screw US dems they ignored everything else. And, here we are.

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> [@MacDoc](#):
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> Where does Peter Rabbitskin come from 🤨

Pierre = Peter

Poil = fur

Lievre = Hare

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Jeff Rogan criticises Trump over tariffs and fight with Canada:

> **['Why are we upset at Canada? This is stupid,' says American podcaster Joe Rogan](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-are-we-upset-at-canada-this-is-stupid-says-popular-podcaster-joe-rogan)**
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> Rogan has made it clear that America needs to back off on the increasing international tension with Canada. 

> **[‘The dumbest f\*\*\*\*\*\* feud’: Joe Rogan breaks with President Trump over key issue](https://www.masslive.com/politics/2025/03/the-dumbest-f-feud-joe-rogan-breaks-with-trump-over-key-issue.html?outputType=amp)**
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> Podcaster Joe Rogan famously endorsed Donald Trump for the 2024 election. Now he's calling one of his signature issues "stupid."

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ooookkkkkay

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From second link:

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> JR: “I just want America and Canada to get along. I think it’s ridiculous… and I don’t really think they should be our 51st state.”

I’ve never seen Rogan before - just snippets from headlines - guessing this is one of the more reasonable things he’s said.

> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> …academe…

We’re the final two remaining who say it that way, possibly.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Although I would be willing to bet most MAGA have no antagonism at all towards Canada.

While I have no data to refute that, I’d be surprised if a good majority of MAGA _don’t_ harbour envy/hatred of Canada.

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> And of course we all know what happened to old Vidkun after the war.

In all seriousness, anyone running for a new pro-annexation party would be in serious danger of being assaulted or murdered. It is quite impossible to overstate how hated they’d be.

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> I’ve never seen Rogan before - just snippets from headlines

He’s a very, very, _very_ stupid man. He matters only because he’s inexplicably managed to attract millions of listeners.

He’s not disagreeing with Trump because he’s smart, he’s disagreeing with Trump because the Canada adventure is so stupid even he can see it.

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Current 338 Projections As Of March 23

POPULAR VOTE

Liberal 39  
Conservative 37  
NDP 11  
BQ 7 (28 in Quebec)  
Green 3  
PPC 2

SEAT PROJECTIONS 172 NEEDED FOR MAJORITY

Liberal 178  
Conservative 131  
BQ 25  
NDP 7  
Green 2  
PPC 0

LIKELIHOOD OF OUTCOMES

Liberal Majority 63%  
Liberal Minority 28%  
CPC Minority 9%  
CPC/LPC Tie 1%  
CPC Majority 1%  
(Not 100 total due to rounding)

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Thanks for that.

Link added:

> **[338Canada Canada | Poll Analysis & Electoral Projections](https://338canada.com/federal.htm)**

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