# Canada: GovGen dissolves Parliament, Carney drops the writ, and the election is on! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 23, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985 "2025-03-23T19:20:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slight_Off_Hand)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/401 "2025-04-18T19:51:45Z")
I think our waits are normally about 5 minutes. I was shocked when we walked in and were told a 2 hour wait. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/402 "2025-04-18T20:02:59Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Carney just capitalized on that. He was even able to grab 8-10 points of Red Tories away from PP. Yep. He’s done what I’ve been telling the CPC to do for almost 20 years now. If this election were being held 30 years ago, does anyone really think Carney would run as anything but an old-school Progressive Conservative? That the modern CPC is trying to paint him as some kind of loony liberal tax-and-spend clone of Justin Trudeau is just laughable. They might as well go full Trump and tell us he’s eating people’s cats, it would be just as credible. The fact that so many of the current CPC supporters can’t see this, and keep parroting this nonsense, just tells me again they have no interest in winning back my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/403 "2025-04-18T20:08:28Z")
> [@Slight\_Off\_Hand](#): > > I think our waits are normally about 5 minutes. I was shocked when we walked in and were told a 2 hour wait. Reports in Ottawa were 45 minutes to an hour earlier in the day. My sister stood in line for an hour. I just got back from voting, and it was literally just walk in and vote, no line at all, but one guy said the wait had been about 40 minutes earlier in the day. Compared to the recent Ontario election, I think this means turnout is going to be much higher. I heard no reports of any significant wait times then. My own vote took maybe 5 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/404 "2025-04-18T21:10:53Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > I remember how well the Liberals supported the military when I was in. Running through the woods shouting, “Bullets, bullets, bullets!”, because we had no training rounds. PM at the time, the first Trudeau. Also true when I was in the Forces… under a Tory government. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/405 "2025-04-18T21:19:42Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Reports in Ottawa were 45 minutes My 45 minute wait was at the Overbrook Community Centre in the east end of Ottawa. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/406 "2025-04-18T21:21:43Z")
I thought Pierre sounded surprisingly calm and cogent during the debate. Notwithstanding some of his views. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/407 "2025-04-18T21:24:05Z")
Damn, we’re practically neighbors! I voted at Gloucester High. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/408 "2025-04-18T21:28:19Z")
Well, 25 years ago we lived in Beaconwood, at the corner of Ogilvie and Montreal roads. And last year we attended the Canada Day celebrations at Loyola Park. Now we’re not far from St Laurent Shopping Centre. We should meet for coffee sometime. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/409 "2025-04-18T21:33:45Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I thought Pierre sounded surprisingly calm and cogent during the debate. Notwithstanding some of his views. I watched the entire debate and I can’t imagine it changed any minds. They all acquitted themselves well and I think Paiken did a good job. In other news, the wife and I just walked to our local Catholic school to vote. There were 4 or 5 polling stations in the gym. For some reason one had long lines of about 20 minutes while our poll there was just one person in front of us. Quick in and out with only 6 candidates to choose from. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/410 "2025-04-18T21:36:32Z")
Yeah, no one changes their mind due to a debate. (Even Biden did not change more than 1% or so.) PP is arguably unwise to embrace “American” policies at this specific time, even if the policies may have merit. Three strikes. Paper straws. Woke wars. Focus on fentanyl. Ways to avoid the legislative branch. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/411 "2025-04-18T23:00:06Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Ways to avoid the legislative branch. Wait… isn’t he _running_ for the legislative branch? (An executive role within it, sure, but also a legislative one.) ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/412 "2025-04-19T00:07:53Z")
Maybe I meant judicial. Though the executive (e.g. president) is usually considered separate from the legislative (e.g. Congress).branch. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/413 "2025-04-19T00:15:18Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Though the executive (e.g. president) is usually considered separate from the legislative (e.g. Congress).branch. Our systems don’t quite match. The Judicial branches are similar, but the Executive (President, VP, and Cabinet) and Legislature (House and Senate) are combined as the PM and Cabinet are all legislators. The GG doesn’t really have executive powers, more like administrative ones. ---
**Author:** ![moes\_lotion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@moes\_lotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moes_lotion)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/414 "2025-04-19T02:57:10Z")
Just to throw a bit of levity into this very interesting discussion, it appears that our election sparked enough interest in Australia for the thejuicemedia crowd to make a video: https: [//www.youtube.com/watch?v=](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=) wT\_n4Khmq0o Edited: Discourse won’t let me post the link because it contains embedded media? I added two spaces to break the link, sorry for the inconvenience. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/415 "2025-04-19T03:49:15Z")
Voted! ---
**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/416 "2025-04-19T10:58:41Z")
Me too by mail last week tho my riding in Canada is always safe for the Libs. Best comment so far _\> PP lost this election due to behaviourial or ideological constraints. It was within his hands, he dropped the ball._ And the strategist that ran Doug Fords successful election campaign let him know it…and he appears not to have listened at all. Since the demise of the Progressive Conservatives there is really not a home for the centrists. Caroline Mulroney could have a shot for moving the Fed Cons left but she did not fare well in the provincial warefare which still leaves a bit of an odour hanging over the whole thing. > **[Caroline Mulroney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Mulroney)** > > Caroline Anne Mulroney Lapham, KC, MPP (born June 11, 1974) is a Canadian businesswoman, jurist, lawyer, and politician who currently serves as the President of the Treasury Board of Ontario and Minister of Francophone Affairs. > Born in Montreal, Canada, she is the daughter of former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney. A graduate of Harvard University and New York University, she was the elected MPP for the riding of York—Simcoe in the 2018 election as a member of the Progressive Conservat... ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/417 "2025-04-19T11:09:35Z")
> [@FinsToTheLeft](#): > > The GG doesn’t really have executive powers, more like administrative ones. The executive power of the federal government is formally vested in the King, and exercised by the GovGen, but on the advice of the Prime Minister and Cabinet. _Constitution Act, 1867_: > **9** The Executive Government and Authority of and over Canada is hereby declared to continue and be vested in the Queen. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/418 "2025-04-19T13:50:46Z")
That’s my point, that the US system doesn’t directly map to ours. Each of Executive, Legislative, and Judicial manage their own affairs and are independent in the US. Other parliamentary but republican countries may have a figurehead elected or selected president in lieu of the Crown. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/419 "2025-04-19T14:01:32Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The executive power of the federal government is formally vested in the King, and exercised by the GovGen, but on the advice of the Prime Minister and Cabinet. You do realize you aren’t disagreeing, right? In reality, **who actually exercises Canada’s executive power?** The Prime Minister. That’s how our system is supposed to work; the King is technically the Head of State and the GG his representative, but it’s all delegated to the Prime Minister and Parliament. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/420 "2025-04-19T14:38:02Z")
I think I’m going to have to vote strategically. In my area (Vancouver Island) the Liberals have zero chance of winning. I’ve actually never voted NDP before but I think I might this time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985.md?page=22)