# Canada: GovGen dissolves Parliament, Carney drops the writ, and the election is on!

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [March 23, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985 "2025-03-23T19:20:24Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/481 "2025-04-23T14:27:53Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> That’s not being found guilty of a crime, it’s the courts striking down a government act. Which happens to EVERY government.

Well, that makes it alright then, I’m sure.

It was only a few years ago and people think it was no big deal because it wasn’t ‘their’ people who had their rights violated.  
“Oh, no. They are honking horns, I do so hope the government lines them up against a wall and deals with the menace. Oh, and Hamas supporters, can you stop the ‘Kill the Jews’ chant for a moment and tell us if your coffee is hot enough?” Bloody hypocrites.

The court ruled that the government had violated Canadian citizens rights.

> **[Canada dispatch: judge rules government lacked authority to invoke...](https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/01/canada-dispatch-federal-court-judge-rules-government-lacked-authority-to-invoke-emergencies-act-over-freedom-convoy-breached-charter-rights/)**
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> William Hibbitts is JURIST’s Deputy Editorial Director. He files this report from Halifax, Nova Scotia. A Canadian Federal Court judge ruled Tuesday in Ottawa that the Canadian government exceeded its...

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/482 "2025-04-23T14:45:18Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> It is a big stretch to claim that the Liberals “committed crimes” when they tried to bring peace…

So, your argument that it is okay to violate people’s rights if:

1. There is support for the protestors by people in government positions.
2. Liberals supporters don’t agree with the protest
3. The protestors caused an inconvenience to someone. (Primarily in Liberal ridings and those who are most likely to vote Liberal in an election and don’t agree with the protest)

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/483 "2025-04-23T16:53:53Z")

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I live in Ottawa and work at a building that was at ground zero for the protest. Calling it an “inconvenience” is underselling how problematic and disruptive it was by an absurd degree. Residents were trapped and had their lives disrupted nearly 24x7.

If someone wants to criticize the Trudeau government for doing nothing about it for weeks and then immediately going to 11, I think there’s something to that. He had support in that from Ford and Sloly though.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/484 "2025-04-23T16:58:39Z")

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This is not remotely my argument. I was also against the Liberals doing this the way they did.

But blocking bridges and disrupting millions of dollars of goods is not okay, nor is disrupting railroads or highways, no matter which group is protesting. Shitting down malls and businesses is not okay. People have every right to protest peacefully for a limited time in lawful ways.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/485 "2025-04-23T18:09:45Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> Well, that makes it alright then, I’m sure.
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> It was only a few years ago and people think it was no big deal because it wasn’t ‘their’ people who had their rights violated.

Perhaps you did not read what I wrote? Are you confusing me with someone else?

I didn’t say it was alright, and had you bothered to go back and check you’d know I opposed the use of the Emergencies Act. But it’s not a CRIME. Learn the difference.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/486 "2025-04-23T18:33:18Z")

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Re: the truckers’ protest:

I disagree with what they were protesting, but I _ **do** _ believe they have the absolute right to protest, and for that protest to be disruptive—even if that means delaying the flow of goods and blocking “millions of dollars.” That’s how truckers demonstrate the importance of their role in society.

The constant horn-honking, however, rises to the level of assault, which is not okay. Protests are loud, yes, and that’s part of the disruption. But above a certain decibel level over a certain period, that is absolutely unacceptable. I’m not prepared to debate where that line is, but it was certainly crossed.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/487 "2025-04-23T20:44:52Z")

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If it wasn’t truckers, paralyzing the capital, blocking busiest border crossing, etc. it would be called something else.

It was a siege, nothing less. When First Nations did it the police shot Dudley George, and they had only blocked a single passage, over an actual land dispute.

Let’s not forget how the truckers boasted, on tv, about bringing their children so police won’t move against them. Their children used as shields. Shiver, that’s who they are.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/488 "2025-04-24T01:14:32Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> But it’s not a CRIME. Learn the difference.

You are correct. I was conflating the judge ruling of ‘unlawful’ with ‘illegal’ and ‘criminal’.  
The government doesn’t constrain itself by making violations of the charter criminal as they are the ones who would be doing the violation. On the other hand, if you or I were to find a way to seize someone’s bank account there would be a related crime even if it was done in a supposed good cause, at least in our minds.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/489 "2025-04-25T01:38:12Z")

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Is the race tightening in Poilievre’s own riding?

> **[Pierre Poilievre in a horse race in Carleton as gap with Liberal candidate...](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/pierre-poilievre-tight-race-ottawa-riding)**
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> Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s long-held riding of Carleton has turned into a horse race in the final days of the election campaign.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/490 "2025-04-25T01:49:30Z")

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Interesting developments in Alberta:

[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/liberals-calgary-hoping-four-seats-analysis-1.7517076](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/liberals-calgary-hoping-four-seats-analysis-1.7517076)

I think the Liberals will pick up some seats in Alberta. No idea how many, but I think that the Liberals will not be shut out of Alberta, as they were the last few times.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/491 "2025-04-25T01:51:18Z")

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That sounds more likely than the possible 9 seats that 338 was suggesting last week.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/492 "2025-04-25T01:53:52Z")

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There’s also this story which sounds to me like “high hopes”. Daughter of former Reform / Alliance / Tory MP standing for Liberals; says her dad would approve.

[https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7509197](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7509197)

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/493 "2025-04-25T01:57:15Z")

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Yeah, I cannot see nine seats in Alberta.

It will be interesting to see what happens in Lethbridge riding. It is traditionally Conservative, but this time, the Liberal candidate is a very popular former mayor of Lethbridge. He’s got a lot of friends, knows almost everybody in town (or at least, has met them), and has got a lot of people thinking. Like I said, it will be interesting.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/494 "2025-04-26T16:49:35Z")

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Carney protestors harass Liberal political rallyers and internet memed one of them. The Westbro Baptist Church of Canadian politics.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sm0c16ZCGTU/maxresdefault.jpg "The Liberal ‘Brantford Boomer’ going viral — what really happened?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm0c16ZCGTU)

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/495 "2025-04-26T17:22:38Z")

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One thing I saw recently, that to me typified PP’s stupidity or lack of awareness or something, was a statement about “chaos in the streets”, that he would prevent. The only “chaos in the streets” that I’ve seen in Canada recently was the stupid freedom convoy, which PP supported. He really is clueless.

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> Carney protestors harass Liberal political rallyers and internet memed one of them. The Westbro Baptist Church of Canadian politics

It’s interesting that the only place I’ve seen this is in people talking about how the meme is wrong. If it’s “popular”, it’s only among isolated right-wing troll sites. And it doesn’t matter what those guys say to each other, none of them were ever going to vote any other way.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/497 "2025-04-26T19:46:59Z")

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338 has stopped responding. Anyone else having trouble getting it?

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No problem with me.

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This is what I’m getting:

# Web server is returning an unknown errorError code 520

## What happened?

There is an unknown connection issue between Cloudflare and the origin web server. As a result, the web page can not be displayed

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