# Canada: GovGen dissolves Parliament, Carney drops the writ, and the election is on!

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [March 23, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985 "2025-03-23T19:20:24Z")\
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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Carney has higher likeability factor than Poilievre

In other news, polls find that Jesus Christ has higher likability factor than Hitler. 😉

It would be lovely if Poilievre loses his own seat.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
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China has not recently threatened to make Canada the 51st state, nor deliberately threaten to cause deliberate economic harm. Also, Canadians expect China to be China. Canadians are surprised when Americans act in “Unamerican “ ways (although the reality is the relationship has changed).

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
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I’ll also add that there is a limit to how many electors one polling station (ballot box) can do. Not only does every submitted ballot must be counted by one person at the end of the night (supported by another worker and in the presence of the public), but, before hand,

- the elector must be verified that they are at the right station,
- confirmed that they are eligible,
- the ballot (and various forms) be initialized, numbered, and handled correctly by the officer who issues it,
- and finally the process requires that the elector returns with the ballot to put it in the box (I once had a fellow who just absconded with his ballot, I had to note that because EVERY MISSING BALLOT THREATENS THE ACCURACY OF THE VOTE).

Today is like a Rube Goldberg machine of effort.

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/544 "2025-04-28T12:53:15Z")

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And of course Elections Canada has the answer [as a suggestion in the manual for Returning Officers](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=pub/ecdocs/rom/vII/ch_7&document=ch_7&lang=e#7.7.1) (the person hired in 10 year terms to conduct elections in a given riding).

> Day 19  
> You should determine how many polls will be required on election day – you should consider splitting a poll if a polling division has more than 600 electors

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**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\
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Anyone know if there is exit poll tracking for Canada?

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
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> [@orcenio](#):
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> the elector must be verified that they are at the right station,

You can only vote at one polling station within your electorate? 😰

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/547 "2025-04-28T14:10:29Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> In other news, polls find that Jesus Christ has higher likability factor than Hitler. 😉
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> It would be lovely if Poilievre loses his own seat.

In your mind, Carney is Jesus and Pierre is Hitler? I just want the record clear here that you consider your fellow Canadians who support the conservatives the same as Hitler supporters.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
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No, to make the record clear, that was a joke, the point of which was that the choice between Carney and Poilievre is a no-brainer. Carney has the intellectual capacity to lead a nation that’s faced with economic challenges (entirely due to Trump’s trade war), while Poilievre, as I’ve said before, is a fucking moron with the intellectual capacity of a turnip.

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Yes. You can’t just go anywhere to vote. If you show up to a poll, its their job to first verify you are in the place you need to be. If you are not in the poll place where your address has designated you, they will give you the correct polling place for your home address and send you there.

The idea is that if they allow an elector to just go to any ol’ polling place on election day… you could just go back to your proper polling place in the afternoon and get two votes (or three or more if you are so inclined). Its always best to sent them to the correct poll. No, ifs, ands, or buts.

…however there are caveats and special allowances. If you are a poll worker, yeah, you are allowed to vote anywhere (who cares, you are working 9-to-9 you won’t have time to run across town and vote twice anyways, plus you took a vow). Also if the Central Poll Supervisor deems your case to be similar you can be registered for a special “mail-in ballot” where at the end of the day they collect it and deliver it to its proper area (I’m not certain of the criteria, but I can look it up).

Ultimately there is a lot of leeway as no one wants to TRUELY deprive anyone of the chance to vote. Plus your id is always verified and double checked in the weeks and months later. If possible fraud is suspected, you get into DEEP trouble (fines and possible jail time). Not worth the monkey business.

ETA: I should highlight that there are VERY RARE cases of intent to vote twice. 99% of all cases are due to misreadings, or mismatches in where the electoral list SAYS you live, versus where YOU CURRENTLY live. So often the lists need to be updated or corrected (you can also request your info to be removed after each election requiring you to repeat the at-the-door registration process each election too).

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/550 "2025-04-28T14:33:48Z")

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No predictions? Mine:

Liberal 179  
CPC 133  
BQ 22  
NDP 8  
Green 1

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Seems consistent with stats I’ve seen before predicting a Liberal majority. I will shortly be going out to contribute to that. My vote will likely be wasted in this overwhelmingly conservative riding, but i’ll do what I can, and at least contribute to the popular vote statistics.

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My overseas vote lost amidst my Lib safe seat in Sauga.  
I’ll wait on the Fat Lady’s song. 🍿

I do recall when Justin was elected from 3rd place during the anyone but Harper wave and the east coast results came in this unexpected tsunami of Lib wins…then Quebec …on and on it rolled to a totally unpredicted Lib majority. Was a very satisfying day. 😻 🦘 🥱

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I predict a horrible night for the NDP and Bloc.

Liberal 178  
CPC 140  
BQ 20  
NDP 4  
Green 1

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**Moderating** :

Remember our #1 rule in P&E, Attack the post, not the poster. You’re pushing it here.

And in checking this thread I find this from 20 days ago:

> [@Canada: GovGen dissolves Parliament, Carney drops the writ, and the election is on!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/173):
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> Moderating: This is crossing into attacking the poster, especially without an explanation of why you think it was a lie. And especially with the weeping dig. Don’t do this again. Challenging the content of a post is fine and encouraged, attacking another poster is not.

So guess what, I’m upgrading this mod note to a Warning. This is your first warning; at least on Discourse, so I’ll leave it at that. But seriously, don’t attack other posters outside of the #The BBQ Pit

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If I were the Beaverton, I’d have a story today: “Poilievre launches last minute appeal to voters: ‘Come on, guys, this was supposed to be an easy win for me!!!’”

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/556 "2025-04-28T15:35:31Z")

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I wonder if Musk is casting a vote, or if destroying his adopted country is enough. (Internet says he holds citizenship, but I don’t know where he has it or merely qualifies for it.)

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Final seat projections from 338 are:  
Liberal 186  
Conservative 124  
Bloc 23  
NDP 9  
Green 1

Lib majority 65%  
Lib minority 20%  
Con minority 13%

CBC Poll Tracker is close except more pessimistic for the Dippers  
Liberal 189  
Conservative 125  
Bloc 23  
NDP 5  
Green 1

Lib majority 70%  
Lib minority 19%  
Con minority 10%

I have no insight or even gut feeling as to whether the outcome is likely to diverge from the polling, outside of trepidation stemming from the trauma of watching election returns last November.

One thing I will note is that while the polling has been pretty steady over the last week, the 338 seat projections have been increasing the variance in likely seat distribution. Back in March with the same lead in the polls and roughly the same seat projections, 338 wasn’t giving the Conservatives more than 1-2% of winning a plurality of seats. Not sure what’s up with that. Could be regional shifts in polling that isn’t apparent when just reading the top line numbers.

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Has he ever resided in Canada? To qualify to vote as a non-resident citizen you must have lived in Canada at some point in your life.

> **[Registration and Voting Processes for Canadians Who Live Abroad](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=reg%2Fetr&document=index&lang=e#etr3)**
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> Registration and Voting Processes for Canadians Who Live Abroad

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No idea. He wasn’t on my radar until recently.

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Has he [Musk] ever resided in Canada?

His mother was Canadian and he attended college in Ontario.

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