# Canada: GovGen dissolves Parliament, Carney drops the writ, and the election is on! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 23, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985 "2025-03-23T19:20:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/41 "2025-03-24T02:12:38Z")
I think Joe Rogan is a fairly insightful and quite funny comedian. We probably don’t see eye to eye on politics though. His popularity as a comedian long preceded his political discussions. One might say the same of Bill Burr or Theo Von. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/42 "2025-03-24T02:20:38Z")
FWIW, today’s updated polls for the CBC gives the Libs a 74% chance of winning, and the Economist shows Carney ahead 39-37% and with more seats (35-44 Liberal vs. 32-41 Conservative) > **[Poll Tracker](https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/)** > > If an election were held today, who would win? The CBC News Poll Tracker is your guide to following the polls. Get the latest numbers and analysis on where the political parties stand from Éric Grenier. > **[2025 Canada election poll tracker](https://www.economist.com/interactive/2025-canada-election)** > > Monitor our tracker of nationwide polls to see who is ahead in the race ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/43 "2025-03-24T02:36:13Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > FWIW, today’s updated polls for the CBC gives the Libs a 74% chance of winning… Remember Clinton in ~~2015~~ 2016. She had similar numbers. I am amazed that after the shit show Canadians can see happening in the US under Trump they want any part of that but I guess they have their MAGA equivalent and people who want zero taxes and no immigrants too. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/44 "2025-03-24T02:47:30Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Remember Clinton in 2015. She had similar numbers. Different political systems. A better question: what kind of numbers did the Democratic party as a whole have, separate from Hillary Clinton? Especially when you have two parties in the US; while we have (right now) five parties represented in Parliament. It’s not an either/or situation, in our case. In Canada, very few people actually get to _directly_ vote for a prime ministerial candidate. Only those in his or her riding do, owing to our parliamentary system, which would only be about 100,000, give or take; and there’s no way one candidate would get all of those. In other words, while Americans could vote directly for Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or George W. Bush or Donald Trump, we cannot vote directly for our Prime Minister, unless we live in the riding where PP or Carney or Singh, etc., is running. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/45 "2025-03-24T02:49:36Z")
Plus, there’s a long gap between 2015 and 2016 ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/46 "2025-03-24T02:50:33Z")
I meant 2016. Typo. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/47 "2025-03-24T02:54:11Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > In Canada, very few people actually get to _directly_ vote for a prime ministerial candidate. I’ve never voted directly for a pm candidate. The closest was a couple of elections ago, when Andrew Scheer was the Tory candidate in a riding next to mine. ( He won his seat but Trudeau won the general.) Last provincial election, I was in the riding where the leader of the opposition was the candidate. That’s the only time that’s ever happened in all my years of voting. (She won her seat but stayed leader of the opposition.) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/48 "2025-03-24T02:58:41Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I’ve never voted directly for a pm candidate. Me neither. The closest I’ve come was when I was living in Calgary and Stephen Harper was running. But not in my riding. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/49 "2025-03-24T03:01:43Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Remember Clinton in ~~2015~~ 2016. She had similar numbers. Of course, because a 74% chance of winning isn’t a 100% chance of winning. But compared to where the numbers were in January, it’s vastly more likely. 338 says my riding is Liberal-leaning (we’re NDP now). I’m inclined to vote NDP but am not sure whether I should shift to the Liberals for a more strategic vote, because it’s just possible for a conservative to take the seat, and I _definitely_ don’t want to vote in a way that favours a Poillièvre government. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/50 "2025-03-24T03:23:54Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > The election is going to be decided on who can best resist Trump. IMHO, if PP wins, Trump will claim, against all evidence, that his Canada policy is a success. He then will put more effort into harming Panama, Greenland, and Mexico, and less into hurting Canada. Carney would resist the most because he would face greater U.S. tariffs that he would need to resist. Poking the bear may be a matter of national honor for Canada, but it will not do any economic good. Knowing that, whomever wins, they are not going to be as strong in their statements against Trump as they were running for office. I’m not telling anyone whom to vote for! ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/51 "2025-03-24T03:52:49Z")
Is this legal? Full title: **Alberta premier faces backlash for asking America to pause tariffs until after election** > **[Alberta premier faces backlash for asking America to pause tariffs until...](https://globalnews.ca/news/11094625/danielle-smith-tariffs-canada-election/)** > > Danielle Smith told Breitbart she asked the Trump administration to pause tariffs until after the election, because the trade war has been benefiting the Liberals in the polls. > Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is facing criticism over comments made earlier in March during an interview with an American right-wing news outlet. > > Smith recently told syndicated news and commentary website Breitbart that she has asked the Donald Trump administration to put tariffs on pause until after Canada’s federal election, because the trade war is benefiting the Liberals in the polls. > > Speaking to Matthew Boyle from Breitbart on March 8, Smith commented that she believes the tariffs imposed by the U.S. are hurting Conservative Party of Canada Leader Pierre Poilievre’s chances of being elected prime minister. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/52 "2025-03-24T04:40:49Z")
I don’t know of any statute that would prevent a sitting premier from asking the head of state of a foreign hostile nation to intervene in a federal election. (I could be wrong, though.) What it says about her intellect, her fidelity to Canada, and her willingness to put party ahead of country are other things. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/53 "2025-03-24T09:22:38Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Poking the bear may be a matter of national honor for Canada, but it will not do any economic good. Knowing that, whomever wins, they are not going to be as strong in their statements against Trump as they were running for office. I’m not addressing this directly, but it does raise a question I’ve had: how much will Trump and his lackeys try to influence our election? Trump can do very little, except endorse candidates, but I’m unsure whether he, as a foreigner, can even do that. But his respect for law is so little, that I’m sure that he’ll ignore any prohibition anyway. But Musk, being a Canadian (among other citizenships) can try to use his money to put behind candidates. There are limits as to how much, as I understand things, but even if the best he can do under the law is $1500 to support the Tory candidate in Upper Muskoka Lakes (fictional riding), I’m sure he’d do it. Will we see any American attempts at influencing our election? ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/54 "2025-03-24T09:26:07Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > But Musk, being a Canadian (among other citizenships) can try to use his money to put behind candidates. There are limits as to how much, as I understand things, but even if the best he can do under the law is $1500 to support the Tory candidate in Upper Muskoka Lakes (fictional riding), I’m sure he’d do it. There are monetary limits to how much he can legally donate to the CPC. However, Musk owns and controls his own social media platform. You cannot attach a dollar amount to that. His ability to influence and effect our population through shitter is, in reality, only limited by his will power. ---
**Author:** ![Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slight_Off_Hand)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/55 "2025-03-24T10:27:20Z")
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-premier-smith-u-s-canada-election-interference-breitbart-1.7491318](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-premier-smith-u-s-canada-election-interference-breitbart-1.7491318) “There’s probably still always going to be areas that are skirmishes, or disputes, about particular industries when it comes to the border. But I would say, on balance, the perspective that Pierre would bring, would be very much in sync with the new direction in America,” - Danielle Smith I can’t imagine a quote better designed to turn Canadians away from the CPC at this point in time. Carney and the Liberals can focus of positives like infrastructure projects, lowered interprovincial trade barriers, and new trading partnerships and let the Conservatives highlight their own negatives. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/56 "2025-03-24T11:42:14Z")
NDP leader Jagmeet Singh thanks everyone for scheduling an election after February 19. This allows him to collect a pension - even if he doesn’t run or runs and loses in the upcoming vote. You need 6 years of service as as an MP to qualify. (average pension is $70k a year). ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/57 "2025-03-24T11:46:47Z")
> [@Mark\_Finn](#): > > NDP leader Jagmeet Singh thanks everyone for scheduling an election after February 19. This allows him to collect a pension - even if he doesn’t run or runs and loses in the upcoming vote. Why do people keep focusing on this? You know who else has earned an MP pension? Any MP that has served 6 years, including Poilievre. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/58 "2025-03-24T11:48:07Z")
The Tories literally set that “Singh is only in it for the pension” attack on repeat for months because he wouldn’t tear down the Liberal government. Wildly unfair to Singh to blame him for collecting a pension by serving as MP (and coming from PP a LIFELONG politician). Such unfairness is politics. Also viciously attacking Singh did PP no favour, as now Singh can’t effectively attack Carney’s Liberals and eat their support away from the left. A weak NDP equals a strong LPC. A strong LPC equals an out-of-job PP. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/59 "2025-03-24T12:56:00Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Also viciously attacking Singh did PP no favour, as now Singh can’t effectively attack Carney’s Liberals and eat their support away from the left. > > A weak NDP equals a strong LPC. A strong LPC equals an out-of-job PP. Harper realised that. He thought that having the Liberals and the NDP weakened the Tories, because voters could choose between a centre-left party and a left party, but in the end those two parties would usually work together in the Commons. He wanted to destroy the Liberals, creating a duopoly where voters could only choose between left and right. He came very close in 2011, where the Liberals were reduced to third party and pundits predicted they were done. Trudeau brought the Liberals back from the near-dead in 2015, which was a major accomplishment. ---
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> [@Spoons](#): > > Different political systems. The MOE is about the same. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985.md?page=4)