# Canada: GovGen dissolves Parliament, Carney drops the writ, and the election is on! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 23, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985 "2025-03-23T19:20:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/844 "2025-05-03T01:14:39Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > I know he’ll win the seat, but is anybody else joining me in the delightful fantasy that he loses it? That was the first thing I thought of when read about the byelection. I know it won’t actually happen…but wouldn’t that be the funniest thing to happen this century? ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/847 "2025-05-03T02:33:38Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > What is the expected _quid pro quo_ for Conservative Party stalwart Damien Kurek? Either a job within the party or in the private sector with a friend of the party. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/850 "2025-05-03T03:39:12Z")
Did you mean Future Senator Kurek? ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/851 "2025-05-03T03:53:04Z")
Yep, that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/884 "2025-05-04T04:20:34Z")
Moderating: At the request of the OP, some posts will be sorted into a new thread for discussing Alberta and its natural resources, some will stay in this thread and some will be moved to a new thread created by the OP to discuss how new PM Carney is doing. Pending this sort, this thread is closed. It will be reopened once the post sort is completed. Thanks for your patience. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/885 "2025-05-04T04:20:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/886 "2025-05-04T16:46:27Z")
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/887 "2025-05-04T19:46:07Z")
Charlie Angus, now retired NDP MP, gives his take on why the NDP did do badly. > [@](#): > > “I think it’d be really dangerous to tell ourselves that we were simply the victims of strategic voting, and it was the times and there was nothing we could do,” Angus said. “We stopped being the New Democratic Party of Canada some time ago and we became a leader-driven movement.” > > “When it came to the biggest economic and political crisis in memory, we didn’t have an offer on the table because we were selling a leader and his likable personality and his style.” > > The Conservatives picked up several endorsements from trade union locals and won over many blue collar voters. While the NDP sought to hold its incumbents, it lost all of its MPs representing voters in Ontario manufacturing towns. Charlie’s never been one to hold back. > **[‘Catastrophic loss’: Former MP says NDP lost touch with core supporters -...](https://globalnews.ca/news/11162700/ndp-lost-touch-with-core-supporters-says-a-former-mp/amp/)** > > The New Democratic Party ran a leader-focused election campaign and lost touch with core supporters who ended up backing the Conservatives, says a former member of Parliament. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/888 "2025-05-04T19:47:13Z")
Thanks for the thread split, @Aspenglow . ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/889 "2025-05-04T19:54:04Z")
Happy to help. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/890 "2025-05-05T03:24:36Z")
Behold: [How’s Carney doing, Canada?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/891 "2025-05-05T05:31:46Z")
Another article analyzing how former NDP supporters voted. Tories’ approach to affordability issues appears to have resonated with some. > **[Why some ‘frustrated’ NDP voters flipped to Conservatives in the election -...](https://globalnews.ca/news/11159180/canada-election-ndp-voters-go-conservative/amp/)** > > The NDP saw its worst federal election results since it formed in 1961, but here's why some of the support they received in 2021 went to the Conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/892 "2025-05-11T02:30:40Z")
Judicial recount flips Terrebonne back from the BQ to the Grits: by one vote! Liberals now have 170 seats in the House of Commons; 172 needed for majority. > **[Recount sees Liberals take Quebec riding of Terrebonne by single vote |...](https://globalnews.ca/news/11174218/terrebonne-recount-liberal-canada-election/)** > > An official with Elections Canada says the seat for a Quebec riding has flipped from the Bloc Québécois to the Liberals by a single vote after a judicial recount was completed. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/893 "2025-05-11T02:47:45Z")
Nice, I will bookmark that for reference to use on those folks who refuse to vote because they think their vote won’t count for anything. ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/894 "2025-05-11T03:57:21Z")
Wow. Does anyone know if other elections have had single vote decisions? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/895 "2025-05-11T05:36:05Z")
There’s a bunch of articles discussing this very thing and providing examples. Here’s one. > **[11 Elections Decided by One Vote (Or Fewer)](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/59873/10-elections-decided-one-vote-or-less)** > > Not every politician wins by a landslide. As these elections prove, every vote really does count. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/896 "2025-05-11T08:27:52Z")
Not quite the same thing, but at least two governments have fallen in parliamentary systems by one vote: - The Meighen government in Canada was defeated by one vote in the Canadian House of Commons in 1926. Meighen lost the subsequent general election to Mackenzie King. - The Callaghan government in the UK was defeated by one vote in the British House of Commons in 1979. Callaghan lost the subsequent general election to Margaret Thatcher. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/897 "2025-05-11T08:46:20Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Liberals now have 170 seats in the House of Commons; 172 needed for majority. ISTM that when you’re so close to having a majority, the chances of losing a confidence vote are very greatly diminished. Carney certainly cannot rule as the leader of a majority government, but I think he’s virtually guaranteed to be able to serve his full term. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/898 "2025-05-11T09:00:26Z")
I think so too. I think there’s a lot more at stake nowadays that could have been brushed off in past minority governments. But this time—I don’t think the Liberals can automatically assume that the BQ or NDP is going to support them, but I’m sure that both of those parties realize that the future of our country is at stake, and will do whatever it takes to keep Canada free and independent. If what that takes is supporting the Liberals, fine, until such time as we can get back to sniping at each other, when the American Trumpist threat has passed. We need to stand united at this point in history. I think our Parliament will find a way to do that. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985/899 "2025-05-11T11:07:40Z")
This is just going to push the Liberals even harder to woo an MP. They have been trying to flip NDP members to cross (the mps, themselves, have reported that they have already been approached by high ranking Liberals like Mélanie Joly). However, at 170 seats, all it would take would be for the Liberals to flip **just one Tory back-bencher** as they already have Elisabeth May waiting in the wings ready to play ball. Also I should add that while Carney was accommodating to PP, in granting him a quick path back back into the house, I don’t expect the Liberal party to be as gracious to the NDP (by granting them official party status). Now Carney could always surprise me, however I view PP’s polarizing Trumpian presence as only helping bolster Carney’s image; while the added existence of a viable NDP only hurts his future chances at rule (Carney won by successfully sowing-up the left-wing voting base). The Liberal voting base might like the NDP as a viable option/protest, the Liberal party, itself, thrives when the NDP is weak/dead. The incentives to screw the NDP are ALWAYS just so large for Liberal party leaders. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-govgen-dissolves-parliament-carney-drops-the-writ-and-the-election-is-on/1015985.md?page=44)