# Canada - Quit Beatin Yer Women, Eh? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712 "2008-06-21T19:54:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/1 "2008-06-21T19:54:41Z")
Wow, I didn’t realize domestic violence was such a big problem Up North. [According to this site](http://www.canadianwomen.org/EN/section05/3_5_1_1-violence_facts.html) : > [@](#): > > - Half of Canadian women (51%) have experienced at least one incident of physical or sexual violence since the age of 16. > > - Every minute of every day, a Canadian woman or child is being sexually assaulted. > > - One to two women are murdered by a current or former partner each week in Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/2 "2008-06-21T20:01:58Z")
OK, OK, I’ll quit beating myself up!!! ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/3 "2008-06-21T20:05:12Z")
[QUOTE=OP] - Every minute of every day, a Canadian woman or child is being sexually assaulted. [/QUOTE] Poor girl… ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/4 "2008-06-21T20:43:24Z")
[QUOTE=fessie] Wow, I didn’t realize domestic violence was such a big problem Up North. [According to this site](http://www.canadianwomen.org/EN/section05/3_5_1_1-violence_facts.html) : [/QUOTE] Any idea how this compares to the US? ---
**Author:** ![Hogwash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@Hogwash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogwash)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/5 "2008-06-21T20:48:14Z")
The UK has a domestic violence murder rate of two a week, so a similar rate to Canada. I don’t see why the US would be significantly different on a per-capita basis. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/6 "2008-06-21T20:58:48Z")
[QUOTE=Ruken] Any idea how this compares to the US? [/QUOTE] [NOW](http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html) has what would seem to extropalate to fairly similar per capita stats. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/7 "2008-06-21T21:03:43Z")
It puts the maple syrup on its skin or it gets the hoser, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/8 "2008-06-21T21:06:13Z")
according to this American site, the [Family Violence Prevention Fund](http://www.endabuse.org/resources/facts/): > [@](#): > > On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner. Some back-of-the-envelope calculations: - 3 deaths per day in the U.S. = 21 per week in the U.S. - the U.S. population is roughly ten times that of Canada. - 21 deaths per week divided by 10 = 2.1 deaths per week; - which is roughly the same number as that cited by the OP for Canada: 1 or 2 per week. Which is not meant in any way to downplay the issue - simply that the OP’s thread-title seems to think the Canadian rate is higher than in other countries. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/9 "2008-06-21T21:08:46Z")
Wow, RO against a whole country. Well it’s not really RO. Whatever. Anyway, I didn’t see an operating definition of “physical or sexual violence,” on that website, so until I do, I’m not convinced of anything. For the US, [this article](http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=913013) shows that 0.04% of Americans have been raped, or 1 in 2500 people. It’s not really relevant, but the article is actually very interesting. It claims that the 85% reduction of rape in the US over the last 30 years is either caused or correlated by the influx of porn since the 70s. ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/10 "2008-06-21T21:14:16Z")
[QUOTE=Enderw24] It puts the maple syrup on its skin or it gets the hoser, eh? [/QUOTE] You are a bad, bad, bad person. Just terrible. ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/11 "2008-06-21T21:42:39Z")
[QUOTE=Northern Piper] Which is not meant in any way to downplay the issue - simply that the OP’s thread-title seems to think the Canadian rate is higher than in other countries. [/QUOTE] No - I was just surprised, I thought we in the U.S. had a bigger problem w/violence against women (and violence in general) than Canada. I thought they were supposed to be more mellow than us. It’s ironic because about a month ago we were at a party hosted by a Canadian couple, and his parents and siblings were there – and I was really surprised by their subtle misanthropy. The women were docile, the men were drunk. And apparently quite bigoted (the kids and I left as the drunkenness set in, so I missed those rants). I wondered if they were unusual, as Canadians, or representative of the rural town from whence they came. Perhaps they were. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/12 "2008-06-21T22:19:16Z")
Do they cut off their feet, too? ---
**Author:** ![kathmandu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kathmandu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kathmandu)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/13 "2008-06-21T22:28:45Z")
[QUOTE=fessie] It’s ironic because about a month ago we were at a party hosted by a Canadian couple, and his parents and siblings were there – and I was really surprised by their subtle misanthropy. The women were docile, the men were drunk. And apparently quite bigoted (the kids and I left as the drunkenness set in, so I missed those rants). I wondered if they were unusual, as Canadians, or representative of the rural town from whence they came. Perhaps they were. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I think it’s entirely reasonable for you to think that your encounter with one Canadian family is representative of an entire nation of people. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/14 "2008-06-21T22:29:37Z")
[QUOTE=Enderw24] It puts the maple syrup on its skin or it gets the hoser, eh? [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] Do they cut off their feet, too? [/QUOTE] Bwahahahahaaa!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/15 "2008-06-21T22:48:07Z")
[QUOTE=kathmandu] Yeah, I think it’s entirely reasonable for you to think that your encounter with one Canadian family is representative of an entire nation of people. [/QUOTE] Well, to be fair, he was only there for 120 minutes, and by my calculations based on my knowledge of the population of Canada, he should have seen at least 8 rapes. Obviously, the Canadians were on their best behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harriet_the_Spry)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/16 "2008-06-21T23:23:18Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] It’s not really relevant, but the article is actually very interesting. It claims that the 85% reduction of rape in the US over the last 30 years is either caused or correlated by the influx of porn since the 70s. [/QUOTE] Bwahaha! That is some laughably bad social science. What other societal changes have occurred starting in roughly the 1970s? He completely ignores the Pill, legalized abortion, and general changes in social mores which lowered the penalties/ risks for women to engage in consensual sex. If availability of porn reduces the motivation to rape, imagine what the availability of actual sex with women could do! The paper applies a certain legal logic that attempts to make the best case for its argument by selectively presenting facts. Maybe there’s some greater nutjob out there correlating the decline in rape rates with improved automotive gas mileage or declining long-distance phone rates. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/17 "2008-06-21T23:58:36Z")
[QUOTE=Harriet the Spry] Bwahaha! **That is some laughably bad social science.** What other societal changes have occurred starting in roughly the 1970s? He completely ignores the Pill, legalized abortion, and general changes in social mores which lowered the penalties/ risks for women to engage in consensual sex. If availability of porn reduces the motivation to rape, imagine what the availability of actual sex with women could do! The paper applies a certain legal logic that attempts to make the best case for its argument by selectively presenting facts. Maybe there’s some greater nutjob out there correlating the decline in rape rates with improved automotive gas mileage or declining long-distance phone rates. [/QUOTE] I don’t know about that. Porn keeps me from raping my wife, so I’ve got that going for me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/18 "2008-06-22T00:54:30Z")
[QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] I don’t know about that. Porn keeps me from raping my wife, so I’ve got that going for me. [/QUOTE] Your wife does porn? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/19 "2008-06-22T01:04:20Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] Your wife does porn? [/QUOTE] Ha. I was jokingly referencing the “death of sex” that is marriage. TBH, we don’t have much sex anymore, because we don’t want anymore children, she can’t seem to find a pill that doesn’t make her sick, I refuse to get a vasectomy, and condoms are a middling proposition for a married guy at best. I mean, I thought that when I got married it meant I _didn’t_ need those rubbers anymore! Boy was I wrong! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712/20 "2008-06-22T01:23:13Z")
Well, since you won’t, can _I_ have sex with your wife? 😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada-quit-beatin-yer-women-eh/453712.md?page=2)