# Canada

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 9, 2000, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360 "2000-03-09T00:58:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Beantown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@Beantown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beantown)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360/1 "2000-03-09T00:58:00Z")

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Why are the Toronto Maple Leafs called that? Shouldn’t they be known as the Toronto Maple Leaves? Is there special Canadian dispendation for the spelling of the plural for leaf?

Also why does every Canandian airport code begin with a Y? For example, Toronto is YYZ, Calgary is YYC and Montreal is YUL. Any reason the Canadian government did this?

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360/2 "2000-03-09T01:32:00Z")

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The Maple Leafs are not named after the part of a plant, but rather a military unit, I believe called the Maple Leaf Regiment.

As for the airport codes, the international agency that doles out the codes decided to make all Canadian airports start with “Y”. I believe that Canadian authorities requested it.

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**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360/3 "2000-03-09T04:32:00Z")

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The Maple Leafs were born in 1927 as the Toronto St. Patricks and played in the Mutual Street Arena. In 1931 they moved to the Maple Leaf Gardens. [The History of the Toronto Maple Leaf Hockey Club](http://www.torontomapleleafs.com/history/teamhistory.htm) site doesn’t say exactly, but it would appear that the name of the team comes from the name of that arena.

It may also explain the improper plural form.

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**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360/4 "2000-03-09T05:10:00Z")

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_ **Beantown:** Also why does every Canandian airport code begin with a Y? For example, Toronto is YYZ…_

## Well _that_ explains the title of the instrument song by Rush on their “Moving Pictures” album.

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360/5 "2000-03-10T06:19:00Z")

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The Toronto Maple Leafs had their present name before Maple Leaf Gardens opened in 1931.

I haven’t been able to find a particular unit of the Canadian military in WWI called “The Maple Leafs”, so perhaps I heard that information incorrectly.

Instead, Maple Leafs may just be used to imply that the team is not named after foliage, despite the big leaf on the sweater.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Derfel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bb73d2/32.png) [@Lord\_Derfel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Derfel)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360/6 "2000-03-10T22:32:00Z")

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From: [Toronto Maple Leafs History](http://www.torontomapleleafs.com/history/historic.htm)

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> Once he had control of Toronto’s N.H.L. team, Smythe’s patriotic pride led him to decide on a Maple Leaf as the team’s namesake and crest. The maple leaf was a proud national symbol to Smythe due to his military career. It is also said that he admired the team name of the East Toronto Maple Leaves whom he scouted regularly. The uniform colours remained green and white for a year after he purchased the team out of respect for the previous organization. He then changed the colours to blue and white, likely due to his long time involvement with the University of Toronto Blues hockey team who have the same colours. Past Public Relations Director, Mr. Stan Obodiac was fond of saying the blue represented the blue of the Canadian sky and the white represented the white of the Canadian snow.

Looks like Conn Smythe chose the name because he liked it, and named his team and arena accordingly. Maybe he chose Leafs to differentiate between his team and the Maple Leaves mentioned in the quote. BobT, it makes mention of Smythe’s military service, so maybe that’s where your memory is coming from.

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**Author:** ![Rodd\_Hill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@Rodd\_Hill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodd_Hill)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360/7 "2000-03-10T00:37:00Z")

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There has never been a regiment or battalion in the Canadian Army with the name “maple leaf” as part of its title.

The maple leaf symbol, however, has appeared on Canadian military badges since at least the Upper Canada Militia days of the War of 1812.

Connie Smythe was an officer in the Royal Canadian Artillery in WWI (although he later joined the Royal Flying Corps), and again in WW2 (in charge of the 33rd Light Anti-Aircraft Battery composed almost entirely of NHL stars like Nick Mets, and known colloquially as “the jockstrap battalion.”).

The cap-badge of the RCA has a wreath of maple leaves around a field gun. Many of the war-raised infantry battalions of the Canadian Expeditionary Force which sailed to England in 1914 had a maple leaf as a background motif or overall shape. [http://www.pma.edmonton.ab.ca/human/govhist/collects/\_badges.htm](http://www.pma.edmonton.ab.ca/human/govhist/collects/_badges.htm)

For more details on Smythe, his military hockey teams, and Canadian hockey players during wartime, here’s a very informative and well-researched page: [http://www.totalhockey.com/features/ch12.html](http://www.totalhockey.com/features/ch12.html)

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**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360/8 "2000-03-10T04:21:00Z")

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I believe the St Patricks were a separate team back in the early days of the NHL. Montreal and New York had multiple teams in those days - the Maroons and the Americans, I think.

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**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canada/8360/9 "2000-03-10T05:04:00Z")

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Fleet, the first sentence of the link I gave reads:

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> The Maple Leafs were born on February 14, 1927 when Conn Smythe took over the team previously known as the Toronto St. Patricks

So, no.
