# Canadian Dopers, a little help from with Bob and Doug’s Christmas song **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [December 22, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669 "2020-12-22T19:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/1 "2020-12-22T19:01:40Z")
Back in the 80s, I had the Bob and Doug McKenzie album The Great White North. One of the classic tracks from that album was their Christmas song, [The 12 Days of Christmas](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9XS3KzviAmU). On day six, their true love gets them 6 packs of two four (and I only know that because I just now looked up the lyrics). What the hell is a pack of two four? TIA ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/2 "2020-12-22T19:15:19Z")
A case of 24. 2-4. (Also, I TOTALLY knew that was going to be the line this was about.) ---
**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/3 "2020-12-22T19:16:00Z")
Beer, of course. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/4 "2020-12-22T19:32:31Z")
Wait. Beer was the gift on both Day One AND Day Six? Kinda redundant, eh? Also, that is a LOT of beer. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/5 "2020-12-22T19:34:17Z")
It’s the McKenzie Brothers. Beer’s their thing, ya hoser. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/6 "2020-12-22T20:29:24Z")
Have you not seen Strange Brew? That’s at most a medium sized amount of beer for Bob and Doug. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/7 "2020-12-22T20:50:23Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What the hell is a pack of two four? You should’ve started with [the animated version.](https://youtu.be/cvx7B8b6Ul8?t=127) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/8 "2020-12-22T20:56:27Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What the hell is a pack of two four? In my experience, “two-four” is a fairly common term, but I have never personally heard anyone talk about a “pack of two-four” (except in the song). I think I originally parsed the lyric as “six-packs and two-fours”. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/9 "2020-12-22T22:59:36Z")
“Oh geez, I really gotta take a whiz, eh?” ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/10 "2020-12-23T03:10:31Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > I think I originally parsed the lyric as “six-packs and two-fours”. That would normally be a more logical reading, yeah, although it wouldn’t fit the format of the song, which is presumably why they used such a weird phrasing. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/11 "2020-12-24T14:39:24Z")
That’s my favorite Christmas song. I always thought it was “6 packs of **[Tuborg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuborg_Brewery)**”. Which packs would presumably be 6 bottles / cans each, so 36 servings of Tuborg. I learn something every day here on the 'Dope. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/12 "2020-12-24T14:44:56Z")
Also note: to convert from U.S. units to metric units, you double the number and add 30. So a metric six pack is 6 x 2 + 30 = 42 litres of beer. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/13 "2020-12-24T15:01:24Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What the hell is a pack of two four? Wasn’t there beer that had a 2.4% alcohol content back then? I seem to remember something like that in my Army days in the early 70s. Beer sold at enlisted clubs on posts only sold weak beer. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/14 "2020-12-24T15:54:38Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Wasn’t there beer that had a 2.4% alcohol content back then? It occurs to me that this idea of a lower alcohol beer sold to junior enlisted may have been an urban myth - kind of like the idea that Mess Hall food was spiked with saltpeter in order to curb the horniness of young men. It may still be where the “2-4” reference comes from, though. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/15 "2020-12-24T16:41:20Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Wasn’t there beer that had a 2.4% alcohol content back then? > > I seem to remember something like that in my Army days in the early 70s. Beer sold at enlisted clubs on posts only sold weak beer. 3.2% beer was a real thing in the USA. Still is in some of the more benighted regions: > **[Low-alcohol beer | Low-point beer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-alcohol_beer#Low-point_beer)** > > Low-point beer, which is often known in the United States as "three-two beer" or "3 point 2 brew", is beer that contains 3.2% alcohol by weight (equivalent to about 4% ABV). > The term "low-point beer" is unique to the United States, where some states limit the sale of beer, but beers of this type are also available in countries (such as Sweden and Finland) that tax or otherwise regulate beer according to its alcohol content. > In the United States, 3.2 beer was the highest alcohol content beer all... I suspect the association with the military is more a matter of lots of military posts being in the Bible Belt states that kept the 3.2 laws on their books long after Prohibition ended. And lots of folks from less uptight states entered the service and got stationed in said Bible Belt. SO they associate the 3.2 beer with the service itself, when it’s really which state they served in. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/16 "2020-12-24T16:51:43Z")
A two-four is a pack (case, box, carton) of beer with 24 bottles in it. I knew that even before I moved to Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/17 "2020-12-24T17:01:16Z")
Some of you are thinking about this too hard. The gift is just six 2-4s, i.e. 144 beers. “Six 2-4s” doesn’t fit with the meter of the song, so they make it “six packs of 2-4” which is something no one would ever actually say. No one would ever actually say “lords a-leaping” outside of the context of this song either. Yes, it’s dumb. Have you _seen_ Bob and Doug sketches? ---
**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/18 "2020-12-24T17:06:03Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I suspect the association with the military is more a matter of lots of military posts being in the Bible Belt states that kept the 3.2 laws on their books long after Prohibition ended. And lots of folks from less uptight states entered the service and got stationed in said Bible Belt. SO they associate the 3.2 beer with the service itself, when it’s really which state they served in. I turned 19 while stationed at Great Lakes Naval Training Center in Illinois back in 1975. While I was 18, I could only drink 3.2 beer at the EM club. The day I turned 19 I went to the EM club looking forward to having my hand stamped with a 19 instead of the 3.2 stamp. That meant I could drink full strength beer and wine but not liquor. Much to my regret the next morning, the guy doing the stamping gave me a 21 stamp on the back of my hand. I spent the evening enjoying $1.50 cocktails and eating pickled hard boiled eggs. I had to stand a 4 hour watch from 8am to noon the next morning with a ripping hangover. I learned a valuable lesson that day, hangovers really suck. In the 45+ years since, I can count on one hand the number to times I woke up with a hangover and the last time was at least 30 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-a-little-help-from-with-bob-and-doug-s-christmas-song/928669/19 "2020-12-24T17:10:21Z")
Truly bad hangovers are one of the object lessons that really stay with a man for life. I’ve had similar and equally long ago.