# Canadian 'dopers, Freedom Convoy?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 10, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186 "2022-02-10T00:07:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/641 "2022-02-23T19:19:16Z")

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Just watched the press conference for the current protest in Winnipeg. It was eye opening. It’s a highly conservative province so walking a fine line, and they’ve been there a while already. The fella fielding questions was quite artful. And appears to have negotiated them to leave at 5pm, refusing to answer, ‘What if they don’t?’ Maintains they been respectful, the police are being respectful, nicest protest they’ve seen, (At the legislature complex.), and kept returning to the balance between action and respecting their rights to protest.

Surprisingly, he wasn’t head of Police services, on the board, or head of some division even. He is a constable. The rank appeared with his name at the podium or on the screen. Definitely the right man for the job, regardless.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/642 "2022-02-23T19:28:52Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Did they have any sort of signifiers?

Non-stop horns and “Fuck Trudeau” flags.

It may be that the latter is an entirely Canadian phenomenon, but with the amount of attention the US has been paying us this month, I wouldn’t be surprised if at least a few showed up.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/643 "2022-02-23T20:15:12Z")

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Most of the Canadian news articles describing the Ottawa protests as peaceful were quoting protestors. No doubt many were, but there were also allegedly over 4k complaints of hate.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/644 "2022-02-23T20:18:57Z")

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These “protests” are now entirely about trying to remove a government that was recently elected. Nothing more nor less.

They are using the “We hate Trudeau” garbage that the Conservative Party has been repeating ad nauseum for the past 5 years.

This is what the Conservative Party of Canada is now.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/645 "2022-02-23T20:19:48Z")

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Anyone attempting to shut down DC will be met with unarmed resistance.

> **[Pentagon approves 700 unarmed National Guard troops to help D.C. manage...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-approves-700-unarmed-national-061941957.html)**
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> Pentagon approves 700 unarmed National Guard troops to help D.C. manage expected truck 'convoys'

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/646 "2022-02-23T20:27:10Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Most of the Canadian news articles describing the Ottawa protests as peaceful were quoting protestors. No doubt many were, but there were also allegedly over 4k complaints of hate.

Yeah, the propaganda arm of the convoy really earned their pay. Constant videos of them having fun, hugging, lounging in the hot tub and playing in the bouncy castle let them sell the narrative that this was just one big party.

They never videoed the people being harassed for wearing masks, the convoyers barging into restaurants and stores (and homeless shelters!) demanding to be served, the local people who moved in with friends and relatives in the suburbs to escape the constant noise, the drunk idiots setting off fireworks in residential neighborhoods at 3AM, the trucks being driven the wrong way down one-way streets, and all sorts of other crap.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/647 "2022-02-23T21:30:53Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Did they have any sort of signifiers?

Following up on this, play spot the difference between the various trucks in this video:

> <https://twitter.com/JulioCesrChavez/status/1496513848366538755?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1496513848366538755%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2Fr%2Fentryeditor%2F2656776903publish>

There’s a few subtle tells.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/648 "2022-02-23T21:38:10Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> They never videoed the people being harassed for wearing masks, the convoyers barging into restaurants and stores (and homeless shelters!) demanding to be served, the local people who moved in with friends and relatives in the suburbs to escape the constant noise, the drunk idiots setting off fireworks in residential neighborhoods at 3AM, the trucks being driven the wrong way down one-way streets, and all sorts of other crap.

And just following up on my earlier post, people in Ottawa have compiled a master list of all the things they were doing.

[https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/13-Zg8yjEPYyybbLy70njbWxGeYELQ3Q3PT2Vph0XKQM/mobilebasic](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/13-Zg8yjEPYyybbLy70njbWxGeYELQ3Q3PT2Vph0XKQM/mobilebasic)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/649 "2022-02-23T21:42:21Z")

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> **['Immediate emergency situation is over': PM Trudeau revokes Emergencies Act](https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/immediate-emergency-situation-is-over-pm-trudeau-revokes-emergencies-act-1.5793047)**
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> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the government will end the use of the Emergencies Act after it was invoked just over a week ago in response to the ongoing trucker convoy blockades and protests.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/650 "2022-02-23T21:52:44Z")

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What? You mean he’s not a dictator after all?

I guess we can go back to the regular programming, where he’s an ineffective wimp.  
The 180 degree whiplash won’t even bother them.

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**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/651 "2022-02-23T21:53:35Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> How exactly can you tell?
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> I see “armadas” of trucks everyday on the interstate. There’s just a whole lotta trucks.
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> Did they have any sort of signifiers?

No, no signifiers as far as I can see.

My wife is visiting her mother, and texted me a picture. She wrote “Trucks headed to DC. We think”

Maybe it’s just a bunch of trucks in the eastbound lanes. The westbound lanes are deserted. I’ll try to post it later.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/652 "2022-02-23T23:15:45Z")

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> The 400 D.C. Guard members and 300 from other states will not carry firearms, take part in law enforcement, or conduct any domestic surveillance, the Pentagon said.

Oh, good. I _love_ pointless gestures.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/653 "2022-02-23T23:38:24Z")

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According to highly esteemed public intellectual Tucker Carlson, Canada, and that nasty-nogoodnik Trudeau in particular, “cancelled democracy”. How foolish of him to do so for a mere nine days. Still, Fox’s defence of the invasion of Ukraine proves Trump would have been so much harder on aggressors than Biden….

> **[Opinion | With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes his...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/)**
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> The ex-president's latest comments once again reveal his admiration for the Russian leader

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**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/654 "2022-02-24T00:12:58Z")

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[![](https://i.imgur.com/KhVrzMi.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/KhVrzMi.jpg)

This is what she sent me.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/655 "2022-02-24T00:26:18Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> whole lotta trucks

Isn’t that an alternative version of a Zeppelin song?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/656 "2022-02-24T00:28:23Z")

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It’s hard to know what to make of that, but a lot of trucks hauling semi-trailers seems to me like a lot of trucks hauling goods. Most of the rigs pictured in the Ottawa protests were just the tractors, no trailers.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/657 "2022-02-24T00:30:24Z")

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Also, not a flag to be seen. If you look at the video I posted earlier, these people are not subtle about broadcasting who they are.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/658 "2022-02-24T00:30:48Z")

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Well, you know American Truckers have to go BIGGER!

Man, I really don’t need another thing going on. I’m just too tired.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/659 "2022-02-24T02:37:43Z")

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This is a reasonable summary of Ottawa.

> **[What They Won in Ottawa](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/02/ottawa-freedom-convoy-truckers-protest.html)**
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> The occupation of my hometown bore striking similarities to what I saw in Charlottesville—with a few key differences.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/660 "2022-02-24T16:07:08Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Poor old truth never had a chance.

The single biggest thing I’ve ever gotten wrong was my belief the Internet would significantly reduce lies, superstition, and nonsense. Hoo boy, that turned out to NOT be the case.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> [https://twitter.com/JulioCesrChavez/status/1496496610108489744?t=FGPKHEVq62xfjFzdWexLhA&s=19](https://twitter.com/JulioCesrChavez/status/1496496610108489744?t=FGPKHEVq62xfjFzdWexLhA&s=19)

Okay, so… I can’t be the only person here who knows that one truck is, by definition, NOT A CONVOY, right? You don’t get to call yourself a convoy if there’s one of you. I’m not even sure two qualifies, but one definitely doesn’t.

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