# Canadian 'dopers, Freedom Convoy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 10, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186 "2022-02-10T00:07:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/661 "2022-02-24T16:42:05Z")
Perhaps you misunderstood? I did not call it a convoy, the man who was trying to organize the convoy was calling it a convoy. He was unsuccessful. Others were not: “U.S. truckers embark on cross-country drive toward Washington, D.C. to protest coronavirus restrictions” [https://twitter.com/i/events/1496538480268226573?t=7UTrEdGmayC3-GFA-sd0Rg&s=09](https://twitter.com/i/events/1496538480268226573?t=7UTrEdGmayC3-GFA-sd0Rg&s=09) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/662 "2022-02-24T16:46:11Z")
Eh, probably wrong forum. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/663 "2022-02-24T16:55:04Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Perhaps you misunderstood? > > I did not call it a convoy, the man who was trying to organize the convoy was calling it a convoy. No, I got that, I was making fun of him. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/664 "2022-02-25T03:40:07Z")
Are we discussing the American convoy(s) in this thread now? I saw several articles today about the Southern California convoy to D.C. staging at Adelanto to begin their trek. Adelanto?? Why Adelanto? It’s basically a tiny micro-community out in the Mojave Desert, a few miles outside of Victorville. I guess there’s plenty of open space around town where a lot of trucks can congregate. I googled some pictures of the place, and it basically just a few shops and houses out in the desert. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/665 "2022-02-25T04:47:16Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Are we discussing the American convoy(s) in this thread now? We might as well, the Yanks have had fun laughing at us so far this month! ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/666 "2022-02-25T05:20:22Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Adelanto?? Why Adelanto? It’s basically a tiny micro-community out in the Mojave Desert, a few miles outside of Victorville. I guess there’s plenty of open space around town where a lot of trucks can congregate. I googled some pictures of the place, and it basically just a few shops and houses out in the desert. Precisely. It’s wide open, and near I-15, which will presumably be the route at least as far as Utah. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/667 "2022-02-25T15:09:08Z")
The route I had a glimpse of somewhere or other was taking I-40 across Arizona and New Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/668 "2022-02-25T15:31:30Z")
Well, that does make sense for this time of year; the route through Utah and Colorado can suck pretty bad in winter. I-40 goes east from Barstow across way less icy places. The other thing about a place like Adelanto is it’s Trumpy. People tend to think of California as a very blue state, but it’s a huge place with distinct voting groups, and as close as Adelanto is to LA, it’s definitively in the Central Valley, which is farm country and deep red. That district went 2-to-1 for the Republican last year. So it’s friendlier territory, so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/669 "2022-02-25T19:49:56Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Well, that does make sense for this time of year; the route through Utah and Colorado can suck pretty bad in winter. I-40 goes east from Barstow across way less icy places. > > The other thing about a place like Adelanto is it’s Trumpy. People tend to think of California as a very blue state, but it’s a huge place with distinct voting groups, and as close as Adelanto is to LA, it’s definitively in the Central Valley, Mostly correct. Adelanto is adjacent to Victorville and I-15 goes from there mostly north-ish to Barstow, where it (a) continues north-east-ish to Las Vegas and beyond, and (b) meets I-40 which proceeds more directly east for a more sourthern route. Adelanto is definitely not part of the Central Valley, it’s out in the Mojave Desert, but it is clearly a rural area and undoubtedly conservative and Trumpish. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/670 "2022-02-26T02:40:53Z")
I just saw an asshole in a pickup truck in a parking lot with two upside down Canada flags in the back. I asked him why he was supporting Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. He said he wasn’t, he was about “FREEDOM!”. I told him the upside down flag was a sign that he supported the Russian invasion, and I just wondered if he knew that. Made him wonder at any rate. I hope he spreads the word. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/671 "2022-03-01T20:22:50Z")
Me-Dom convoy will cost Ottawa an estimated $30 million. 40 Truckloads of garbage cleaned up from the pigsty they left behind. Wages and revenue lost in Ottawa estimated at $306 million. The upcoming civil lawsuit is going to try to recover some of that money. Legal targets include not only the organizers, and not only the cash raised (now in escrow), but also anyone who participated (they have photo evidence, including license plate numbers), and anyone who donated to help this illegal occupation going. I hope they succeed in recovering some of that money. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Of course these idiots will not want to be actually responsible for the damage they caused. They are spoiled children. > **[Forty truckloads of garbage: Ottawa cleans up after the Freedom Convoy clears...](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/40-trucks-worth-of-garbage-ottawa-cleans-up-after-the-freedom-convoy-clears-out)** > > The city estimates the tab for the occupation will cost Ottawa about $30-million ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/672 "2022-03-02T15:33:48Z")
Another freedumb convoy just started from nearby Spokane, WA. I imagine they’ll get lost before they hit the ID border. 🤣 > **[Convoy protesting COVID-19 restrictions departs for nation's capital from...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/mar/01/convoy-protesting-covid-19-restrictions-departs-fo/)** > > Hundreds of semi-trucks, cars and other vehicles were expected to depart Spokane on Wednesday morning with the drivers’ sights set on the nation’s capital to protest COVID-19 restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/673 "2022-03-02T18:21:47Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Another freedumb convoy just started from nearby Spokane Do these people know that Biden’s SOTU speech is over already? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/674 "2022-03-02T18:27:55Z")
If they are anything like what I saw in videos of their Canadian counterparts, no. Not the brightest group of folks. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/675 "2022-03-03T03:34:57Z")
I was curious what effect the Canadian convoy ultimately had on anti-vaxxers in other countries who admired them. Freedom isn’t free. And if you don’t throw in your buck-o-five who will? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/676 "2022-03-03T04:15:44Z")
I’ve heard the New Zealand equivalent in Wellington had no trucks, but was basically just a bunch of people camping on the lawns and shitting in the bushes. Oh, and at one point a bunch of them started to get sick, with coughing, congestion, fevers etc. Of course, they naturally blamed the government for beaming them with radiation. Not the fact that they all spread covid to each other. [And they literally started wearing tin foil hats.](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/protesters-turn-to-tinfoil-hats-as-increasing-sickness-blamed-on-government-beaming-radiation-rays/FDCP6NEFJUQWWINL2GXI7OKS6E/) ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/677 "2022-03-03T14:27:31Z")
There is a massive pandemic of confused ignorant people out there. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/678 "2022-03-03T15:28:05Z")
I can’t see the government having much trouble towing trucks in Paris, Perth or Poland. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/679 "2022-03-03T16:12:16Z")
My brother has been posting non stop on LinkedIn (I had him blocked on all other platforms) about the atrocities committed against the heroic truckers in Canada, that this is what happens when socialists take over a country and brutally silence all dissent. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/680 "2022-03-03T18:34:08Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > this is what happens when socialists take over a country and brutally silence all dissent. Isn’t he worried about the socialists coming to brutally silence _his_ dissent? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186.md?page=35)