# Canadian 'dopers, Freedom Convoy?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 10, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186 "2022-02-10T00:07:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/761 "2022-03-19T02:59:30Z")

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And pissing off people.they hate.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/762 "2022-03-19T03:58:46Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Anyone so stupid should not be allowed to drive.

TSTD?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/763 "2022-03-19T13:05:57Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> TSTD?

Ummm… Huh?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/764 "2022-03-19T15:34:01Z")

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Too stupid to drive as opposed to too stupid to live.

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/765 "2022-03-19T18:11:53Z")

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Just got an email from our esteemed Senator, Steve Daines (R–shithead): "Daines Stands with MT Truckers Fighting for Freedom: overreaching COVID-19 mandates imposed by President Biden’s administration are wreaking havoc on our entire country.

They’re hurting Montana small businesses, burdening the labor force and worsening the supply chain crisis."

WHAT mandates, Steve? As far as I can tell the only one left is masks on planes, although the state Supremes just overturned a ban on medical facilities requiring employees to be vaccinated. Too bad, so sad. Montana is literally at the bottom of the list for any Covid preventions, asshole.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/766 "2022-03-20T04:01:26Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> We sometimes get long lines of pick up trucks driving through our city on weekend afternoons.

Here in Ottawa, we’re largely down to seeing “convoys of one”, as some lonely guy drives around with some flags on his truck.

And, as was always planned, COVID restrictions are being lifted. Vaccine checks and capacity limits for restaurants have largely ended (St. Patrick’s Day at my local pub was close to capacity), the mask mandate in Ontario ends Monday, the Federal government just announced that as of April 1st, pre-arrival COVID tests will no longer be needed for people travelling to Canada.

So all that pissing and moaning last month was for nothing - if they’d just waited a month, they’d have had just about everything they _claimed_ they wanted.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/767 "2022-03-20T04:33:41Z")

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An article in the _Star_ claims Canadians who do not believe in vaccinations are twelve times more likely to support Putin and oppose supporting Ukraine. This surprised me, since I thought Euphonious was exaggerating somewhat.

Another article states many of these contrarians embrace any theory that opposes “the narrative”, seen as whatever mainstream media recommends. As to how true this is, I could not say.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/768 "2022-03-20T09:09:03Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> So all that pissing and moaning last month was for nothing - if they’d just waited a month, they’d have had just about everything they _claimed_ they wanted.

What a waste of good fuel. Expensive too,

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/769 "2022-03-20T15:22:41Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> An article in the _Star_ claims Canadians who do not believe in vaccinations are twelve times more likely to support Putin and oppose supporting Ukraine. This surprised me, since I thought Euphonious was exaggerating somewhat.

Considering how much of the anti-vax, anti-mask, anti-Trudeau, anti-Biden crap these guy support has been driven by covert Russian propaganda, it really shouldn’t be a surprise that they’re on Putin’s side now. “Hey, this guy was telling the truth about COVID vaccines making people’s faces explode, they must be telling the truth about the Russians being welcomed as liberators!”

Once you start buying their BS, it’s hard to stop. You might have to re-evaluate your beliefs or something!

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/770 "2022-03-21T12:55:49Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> An article in the _Star_ claims Canadians who do not believe in vaccinations are twelve times more likely to support Putin and oppose supporting Ukraine. This surprised me, since I thought Euphonious was exaggerating somewhat.

They’re getting a particular stream of social media posts and “news.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/771 "2022-03-21T17:23:45Z")

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Idiot “convoy” protesters seem to be emulating the Russian army’s tactics of getting stuck in the mud.

> **[Truck impounded, driver fined $600 amid Victoria convoy protest](https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/truck-impounded-driver-fined-600-amid-victoria-convoy-protest-1.5827816)**
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> Victoria police impounded at least one vehicle over the weekend amid protests opposed to COVID-19 mandates outside the B.C. legislature.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/772 "2022-03-22T19:22:57Z")

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So the DC truckers are mulling over Citizens Arresting the police and Mayor…

> **[People's Convoy organizer floats conducting 'citizens arrests' of DC Metro...](https://www.rawstory.com/peoples-convoy-2657017691/)**
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> The "People's Convoy" appears ready to escalate its tactics beyond merely being a nuisance to Washington D.C. residents and commuters.The Daily Beast's Zachary Petrizzo reports that People's Convoy organizer Ron Coleman said on Tuesday that he wants...

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/773 "2022-03-22T19:49:38Z")

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I don’t believe in any god but I’m praying for this to happen. It’s been pretty dull around here lately I need some free entertainment.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/774 "2022-03-22T20:33:56Z")

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They may have not thought that through very well.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/775 "2022-03-22T21:49:15Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> So the DC truckers are mulling over Citizens Arresting the police and Mayor…

Also known as “kidnapping” and punishable by a long jail term…

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/776 "2022-03-22T23:23:32Z")

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Just since it may not have been mentioned, Ontario has new regulations permitting police to remove licenses and plates from those blocking a border, in addition to investing in tow trucks. Reasonable enough, but the damage is done since Americans need few new excuses to favour domestic manufacturing.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/777 "2022-04-27T17:01:44Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> “The government will use the act to force towing companies to remove big rigs and other vehicles that are blocking highways and other critical infrastructure, establish zones where public assembly is not allowed, and require banks to suspend or freeze accounts suspected of supporting the blockades, including those belonging to companies whose trucks are part of the convoy.” (From CP24 news).
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> There are two questions. Is it reasonable to use the Act? And are the legal requirements to invoke the Act met?
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> If towing companies would not help in Ottawa, I think it was reasonable. There are questions if it met the legal standard of “no other law” I am unqualified to answer, but it passed the House as a non-confidence vote. Economic damage including reputations damage is serious and could be long lasting. The Act’s use should be ended promptly. I thought Trudeau had threatened to use the Act before the Windsor blockade was dispersed and arrested, but am not sure on this point. Windsor might have ended the day before, in which case I was mistaken on this point. Even so, there were other border blockades and other convoys. I do not see the Act as an outrageous overreach. Probably 7 in 10 Canucks would agree.

Although a review is required at 60 days, the Opposition will seek to make much from this. Talking heads have said traffic and trade at the borders were “affected”, but were diverted to other places. That is not the point. The US does not need further reasons to become more isolationist. Economic reputations matter.

I could not say of all the legal niceties were in place for the use of the Act. But trade and peace had to be restored. This was true for Aboriginal protests blocking railway lines, and it is true for convoys of truckers as well. Make your point, than go away.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/778 "2022-04-27T17:26:46Z")

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Get ready folks, we might have Convoy #2 this weekend, as the Bucker Biker Convoy is coming to town!

The city is planning to ban protest vehicles from a big part of downtown around Parliament, and pinky swears that they’ll actually write tickets for noise, traffic and public nuisance violations this time.

And here I was hoping I could take my bike downtown on the train this weekend…

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/779 "2022-04-28T03:22:09Z")

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I’ve seen people online calling them Reich’s Bikes. I hope it sticks because seriously fork these far-right fascists.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-dopers-freedom-convoy/959186/780 "2022-04-29T00:13:12Z")

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So, update on the Borkers Convoy: One idiot was already arrested for violating the conditions of his release after being arrested during the Truckers Convoy. He was apparently supposed to stay the fuck out of Ottawa, but just couldn’t quite manage that.

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