# Canadian MP should have followed my Zoom advice **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 15, 2021, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025 "2021-04-15T01:39:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/1 "2021-04-15T01:39:04Z")
Some of you expressed scepticism when I started this thread: > [@Do you restart your computer après-Zoom?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-restart-your-computer-apres-zoom/938858/): > > As a techno-peasant who has trouble with mute/unmute, figuring out how to « raise hand » before the speaker has moved on to other topics, and still can’t send a chat message no matter how many times it’s explained to me, I’ve got in the habit of restarting my computer after a Zoom or Teams session to make sure my mike is off. Anyone else do that? Right now, there is a Canadian MP who would have benefitted from reading my thread: > **[Liberal MP causes consternation in House of Commons after appearing naked on...](https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberal-mp-causes-consternation-in-house-of-commons-after-appearing-naked-on-camera-in-front-of-colleagues)** > > 'If you could remind our colleagues, particularly the men, that a tie and a jacket are obligatory, but also a shirt, underwear and pants' He apparently was changing in his office after going for a jog. Unfortunately, he had left his Zoom link on. Which fed his image to the MPs who were participating in Question Period in the virtual House of Commons. Bloc Québécois Whip Claude DeBellefeuille raised it as a point of privilege with the Speaker: > [@](#): > > “Since the beginning of the pandemic, you have repeated many times the importance of respecting decorum and dress code. And I think that we have broken a record today, because we saw an MP, during question period, in the simplest of attires. In other words, naked,” DeBellefeuille told the speaker after seeing her undressed colleague. > > “So if you could remind our colleagues, particularly the men, that a tie and a jacket are obligatory, but also a shirt, underwear and pants. We were able to see that the MP was in great physical form, but I think it’s important to remind him to control his camera.” His “camera”. Right. That’s what they’re calling it now. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/2 "2021-04-15T02:15:05Z")
If he’d controlled his camera we wouldn’t be hearing now about his “camera”. Given that “camera” is from Latin for “little room”, the same root as English chamber, bicameral, unicameral, and the legal term _in camera_ I find a certain irony in a female MP complaining about exposed male cameras. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/3 "2021-04-15T09:38:05Z")
Kinksters will be pleased to know that he’s the Bloc party whip. Vive la Fetlife libre! ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/4 "2021-04-15T12:54:46Z")
“Whip Claude DeBellefeuille first laid bare the incident” He noticed that he had it whipped out? At least someone is doing their job! And what the hell is he doing to that cell phone? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/5 "2021-04-15T13:18:38Z")
She. The Bloc Québécois whip is a woman: [Claude DeBellefeuille.](https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/claude-debellefeuille(35315)). ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/6 "2021-04-15T13:25:40Z")
This gives a whole new meaning to “The Honourable Member of Parliament”. 😀      ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/7 "2021-04-15T13:38:16Z")
Would the members please rise to vote yay or nay on the proposed government package? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/8 "2021-04-15T13:39:47Z")
Lesson learned-Don’t jog. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/9 "2021-04-15T16:29:13Z")
The Legal Eagle shares his most epic Zoom fails on Youtube. Yes, the lawyer who is not a cat is one of them, as well as another naked guy. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Nlqmf62KKbo/maxresdefault.jpg "Lawyer Reacts to the most EPIC Zoom Fails") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlqmf62KKbo) ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/10 "2021-04-15T17:16:30Z")
Yes she is, but “Claude” is a unisex name so the error is understandable. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/11 "2021-04-15T17:23:07Z")
If you have a camera on your laptop and you don’t keep it physically covered when you aren’t using it, _what the hell are you thinking?_ ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/12 "2021-04-15T22:18:01Z")
I have such a camera that’s never covered. But it does have a bright idiot light when it’s on. So I might add one more proviso to your suggestion: > If you have a camera on your laptop and you don’t keep it physically covered when you are undressed and aren’t using it, _what the hell are you thinking?_ ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/13 "2021-04-16T00:21:32Z")
There is software out there that will turn on your camera and record you without you knowing about it. We had a thread a coiple of years ago about a school district that was using it to spy on kids in their homes. I wouldn’t trust an employer to not install such software when people are working from home. Many are worried that people are slacking at home during the day, so I wouldn’t at all be surprised if some are turning to spyware. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/14 "2021-04-16T00:31:15Z")
Could well be. I was working from the perhaps silly assumption that people controlled their own computers. Net of malware of course; nobody can reliably say they’re fully malware free. And are guaranteed to stay that way. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/15 "2021-04-16T00:39:35Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > We had a thread a coiple of years ago about a school district that was using it to spy on kids in their homes. How time flies when you’re having fun the ever-luvin’ crap sued out of you. (both threads from 2010) > [@Hol-eeee Crap!! School Suspends Student...After Spying on Him](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hol-eeee-crap-school-suspends-student-after-spying-on-him/529510): > > So this Pennsylvania school susepnded a studen for inappropriate behaviour…in his home…by spying on him with a webcam on a school owned laptop…that was remotely activated to spy on the kids at home. Yes, you read that right, the school is using the computer’s webcams they gave the kids to use and then using it as a basis to suspend for something they did in home, possibly even in their bedroom. [School used student laptop webcams to spy on them at school and home](http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html) Ok this all sorts of creepy … > [@Lower Merion SD - 58,000 Webcam Pictures](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lower-merion-sd-58-000-webcam-pictures/538483): > > Some were calling BS on the lawsuit about the Lower Merion School District spying with webcams. The report is back from their own internal investigation, only 58,000 pictures. Note: This may seem pretty tame for the Pit but the original thread was here, so I put this update here also. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/16 "2021-04-16T00:40:48Z")
I don’t really understand this. Usually, when a zoom meeting ends, it ends. Even if you, yourself, forgot to click leave, the host would automatically end the session for everyone when they left. All cameras would be turned off. So it looks like this is some sort of weird permanent zoom, even when the meeting is paused for long enough for someone to go for a job? Huh? Anyway, simply making sure the camera was turned off in the zoom session would be the issue there. It’s not necessary to restart the computer to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/17 "2021-04-16T01:07:39Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > How time flies when you’re having fun the ever-luvin’ crap sued out of you. > (both threads from 2010) Egad. Time flies when you’re getting old. A couple years, a decade… It all flows by like tears in rain. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/18 "2021-04-16T01:09:50Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > I don’t really understand this. Usually, when a zoom meeting ends, it ends. Even if you, yourself, forgot to click leave, the host would automatically end the session for everyone when they left. All cameras would be turned off. Yeah, I’m not sure I buy that guy’s excuse. The one pixellated picture of him I saw looked more like he was having himself a ‘good time’ rather than getting dressed. It reminded me of the Tobin missile crisis. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/19 "2021-04-16T03:38:39Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > I don’t really understand this. Usually, when a zoom meeting ends, it ends. This is the House of Commons, sitting virtually, but the meetings last several hours, maybe all day. It may be that the feed is running from morning until evening, with individual members logging in as their business requires. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025/20 "2021-04-16T07:44:44Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > This gives a whole new meaning to “The Honourable Member of Parliament” Are you referring perhaps to the Honourable Member of the Honorouble Member of Parliament? @Northern_Piper I can as easily forgot to reboot as I can forget and leave my camera running. Your particular practice only helps if you aren’t confident you know how to turn off your camera. It doesn’t help with what is IMHO probably the more common problem which is simply forgetting. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-mp-should-have-followed-my-zoom-advice/940025.md?page=2)