# Canadian Pacific and Kansas City Southern to merge, plan to carry freight from Canada to Mexico

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**Created:** [March 21, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-pacific-and-kansas-city-southern-to-merge-plan-to-carry-freight-from-canada-to-mexico/938347 "2021-03-21T14:54:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-pacific-and-kansas-city-southern-to-merge-plan-to-carry-freight-from-canada-to-mexico/938347/1 "2021-03-21T14:54:28Z")

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I rarely think about freight rail. But i guess it’s still big business.

Railroads Strike a $25 Billion Merger [Railroads Strike a $25 Billion Merger - WSJ](https://www.wsj.com/articles/railroads-strike-a-25-billion-merger-11616330332)

It’s subject to regulatory approval in the US as to whether it will increase or decrease competition.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-pacific-and-kansas-city-southern-to-merge-plan-to-carry-freight-from-canada-to-mexico/938347/2 "2021-03-21T15:26:44Z")

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As long as it’s not a highway!

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-pacific-and-kansas-city-southern-to-merge-plan-to-carry-freight-from-canada-to-mexico/938347/3 "2021-03-21T19:18:16Z")

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Smart move by Canadian Pacific. This will bring their operating revenue much closer to Canadian National’s.

I wonder why Canadian National (that already has a Montreal, Toronto, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, New Orleans route) didn’t pick it up previously so as to be able to get business from Mexican shippers who might prefer to have a single line carrier as much as possible.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-pacific-and-kansas-city-southern-to-merge-plan-to-carry-freight-from-canada-to-mexico/938347/4 "2021-03-22T00:01:35Z")

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CN was already running trains down Kansas City to Mexico, and actually buying KC would have given them two parallel North/South routes – which they probably would not have been able to get regulatory approval for. I imagine the CP will be required to continue the deal with CN to get approval for the merger.

I think that there’s at least one more N/S route between the two lines. I’d love to see trains running through central Illinois again, but I don’t think that’s going to happen.

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**Author:** ![BrickBat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@BrickBat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrickBat)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-pacific-and-kansas-city-southern-to-merge-plan-to-carry-freight-from-canada-to-mexico/938347/5 "2021-03-22T00:07:23Z")

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Alas, another “fallen flag” railroad. Been around since the late 1880s.