# Canadian TV station does informal study of attitudes to men’s and women’s clothing

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**Created:** [February 2, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-tv-station-does-informal-study-of-attitudes-to-men-s-and-women-s-clothing/997004 "2024-02-02T03:03:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-tv-station-does-informal-study-of-attitudes-to-men-s-and-women-s-clothing/997004/41 "2024-02-02T22:37:00Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I’ll add my vote that this is the reason the women’s outfits were noticed and the men’s were not.

But the clothes the women wore in this case were not highly colourful and not of various styles, as shown in the Instagram link above.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-tv-station-does-informal-study-of-attitudes-to-men-s-and-women-s-clothing/997004/42 "2024-02-02T22:40:56Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Or do you think men should show up at a formal dinner or a bank senior vice president should show up at the office looking like this?

I think you know my feelings on dress codes and being confined by society’s expectations.

Back To The OP

IMO Stations still hire male news casters for ‘gravitas’ and women for ‘eye candy’. This is indeed due to the patriarchy and should be changed.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-tv-station-does-informal-study-of-attitudes-to-men-s-and-women-s-clothing/997004/43 "2024-02-02T22:43:59Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> But the clothes the women wore in this case were not highly colourful and not of various styles, as shown in the Instagram link above.

Exactly. Reposting your link for emphasis.

> **[Sophie Lui on Instagram: "Did you notice something odd about our outfits the...](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2vVHCzysMN/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=3f8a2b1a-7034-4825-9f46-797878156057)**
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> 47K likes, 1,263 comments - sophielui on January 30, 2024: "Did you notice something odd about our outfits the last couple of weeks? Here’s your answer…
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-tv-station-does-informal-study-of-attitudes-to-men-s-and-women-s-clothing/997004/44 "2024-02-02T23:08:16Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > I’ll add my vote that this is the reason the women’s outfits were noticed and the men’s were not.
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> But the clothes the women wore in this case were not highly colourful and not of various styles, as shown in the Instagram link above.

But the fact remains the women’s clothes in semi-formal settings like news broadcasting are intrinsically much more variable than men’s clothes, which are pretty much always a dark-coloured suit. Because of that, there is an **expectation** of variation, and the absence thereof will be noticed. Not saying that this is how it should be, but that this the current fashion reality.

> [@DocCathode](#):
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> IMO Stations still hire male news casters for ‘gravitas’ and women for ‘eye candy’. This is indeed due to the patriarchy and should be changed.

It may be true for some stations and networks more than others, and depends to some extent on the perceived audience. Fox News is infamous for “eye candy”, but that’s because most of its viewers are shallow misogynistic dumbasses.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-tv-station-does-informal-study-of-attitudes-to-men-s-and-women-s-clothing/997004/45 "2024-02-02T23:28:36Z")

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Yeah, the claim isn’t that these particular women wore clothes that stood out. It’s that men’s formal fashion has much less variation that comes standard. It’s harder to tell the difference between a guy who wore the same suit every day and one who wore a different suit every day.

The male business suit seems to have been designed to have the men all look the same, like a uniform, while the female business suit or dress does not seem to have this aspect.

If the goal was to see what would be noticed, then this experiment makes sense. Have the women wear something that doesn’t stand out, and the men as well. If the goal is to see what would be commented on, then it would make more sense to make sure the men’s clothing was noticed by having them dress in something that would be remembered from day to day.

Finally, I’d actually suspect that women would be more likely to notice and to comment on women’s fashion. Men are less likely to notice, and those who did would be less likely to know it was a fashion faux pas. And, even if they did, there’s at least a subsection of men who would think it wasn’t their place to comment on women’s appearances (though another subset who would think they needed to).

Have the women wear the same outfit as each other for more than one day (different outfits per day) and I think more men would notice. Have the men wear the same outfit as each other, and I think few of either gender would notice.

That’s just what men’s formal/business fashion looks like.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-tv-station-does-informal-study-of-attitudes-to-men-s-and-women-s-clothing/997004/46 "2024-02-03T01:40:47Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> (Don’t some shows, such as game shows, tape more than one episode back-to-back and have participants change between episodes so that it looks like they were recorded on different days?)

Yep! I’ve been a _Jeopardy!_ contestant, and they told us to bring at least three different outfits to the studio.

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