# Canadope 2015: Battlestar Canadica

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655 "2015-01-01T01:49:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/421 "2015-10-13T05:47:41Z")

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We did too: [Voted in the Advance Poll Today (Canadian Federal Election)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=771999)

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/422 "2015-10-23T11:19:55Z")

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[Tim Fedak, accompanied by his dog Rex, points.

Harold Nesbitt said “But I idolized that hole.”]([http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1317805-five-islands’-landmark-natural-arch-collapses](http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1317805-five-islands%E2%80%99-landmark-natural-arch-collapses))

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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/423 "2015-10-23T14:08:22Z")

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Don’t we all… Well, I know I do.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/424 "2015-10-28T03:20:08Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> [Harold Nesbitt said “But I idolized that hole.”](http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1317805-five-islands%E2%80%99-landmark-natural-arch-collapses)

I blame Wile E. Coyote.

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/425 "2015-10-28T20:31:11Z")

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Election time has come and Harper is gone. Defeated Tories are giving final interviews to show that they are normal humans and not cold/incompetent, talking-point spewing automatons (ala [what John Baird did in Feb](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-baird-tells-peter-mansbridge-he-didn-t-want-to-be-political-lifer-1.2945385)). And I tells ya, surprisingly, Paul Calandra [actually seems like a fully function human being](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/paul-calandra-niqab-c24-conservative-mistakes-1.3291271), quite the shock considering how awfully bad he conducted himself in Parliament (his public apology was forgotten in a month). However…

> [@The "Longest Election Campaign in Modern Canada" Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-longest-election-campaign-in-modern-canada-thread/726807/143):
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> I just listened to the CBC interview with Chris Alexander from last year. in a nutshell, Alexander refused to answer Carol Off’s questions about the exact number of refugees that were realistically helped into Canada (this is after avoiding the CBC for over 6 months).
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> This came to be because the government was criticized as clamping down on refugee entry, secret/quiet denial/refusal of service, and lack of transparency. Alexander replied that none of that was true and that this administration was doing a lot of help. Off then asks him to quantify the number of Government sponsored refugees have arrived in Canada. Everything breaks down after that request.
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> [Please listen to the interview yourselves](http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/wednesday-federal-immigration-minister-chris-alexander-shrimp-slave-ship-authentic-rembrandt-and-more-1.2903509/immigration-minister-chris-alexander-on-bill-c-24-syrian-refugees-and-his-hanging-up-on-us-1.2903514) it really highlights the Tory media/parliament operating procedure of 1) Avoidance 2) Misdirection 3) Obfuscation 4) Reluctance address concerns 5) Contempt

Chris Alexander does not come off well, [he takes no responsibility](http://globalnews.ca/news/2301750/watch-out-of-parliament-but-unrepentant-chris-alexander-slams-hippy-trippy-liberals/) for his role in slow/no rolling non-Christian Syrian refugee sponsorship applications and even doubles down on his “this whole thing was a media witch hunt against me” shtick he’s been peddling for close to two years now.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/426 "2015-10-30T21:50:26Z")

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Today I attended a seminar on the changes to auto insurance in Ontario on 1 June 2016. In short, we’re all fucked, for statutory accident benefits are being slashed, and the pre-judgement interest rates are being set so low that the insurance companies will make a lot of money by stalling as long as they can. The take-home points were (1) purchase extended coverage if you can (note that both the plaintiff and defence personal injury lawyers at the seminar recommended this and have done so personally), and (2) sue under tort ASAP if at all possible. Grrrrrrrrrr!

The seminar started off with a [Cracked video](https://youtu.be/zfdSTyAcXfs) that has nothing to do with the Ontario changes, but gets the idea across of what we can expect.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/427 "2015-10-30T22:18:30Z")

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If the current government of Ontario is doing anything, in any area, you can be sure they’re fucking it up. So of course they’ll fuck up auto insurance.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/428 "2015-10-30T23:53:02Z")

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Seems to be the fallout of capping rates – slashed benefits.

That’s going to put greater strain on the public purse re. social assistance and Ontario disability support plan.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/429 "2015-11-04T19:23:25Z")

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The new Cabinet has been announced. The most interesting from my viewpoint (my being an asshole for hire in a city where aboriginal conflict with the law is a major issue) is our new Minister of Justice Jody Wilson-Raybould, who once was the regional chief of the B.C. Assembly of First Nations, and started out as a Crown attorney. Those are excellent credentials for some whose job will to a high degree involve dealing with the truly horrid problems Canada is facing regarding aboriginal justice. Of course the issues are far broader than simple laws and enforcement, but at least there will be someone who actually gets it.

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**Author:** ![Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/das_glasperlenspiel/32/2944_2.png) [@Das\_Glasperlenspiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Das_Glasperlenspiel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/430 "2015-11-04T19:27:53Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> The new Cabinet has been announced. The most interesting from my viewpoint (my being an asshole for hire in a city where aboriginal conflict with the law is a major issue) is our new Minister of Justice Jody Wilson-Raybould, who once was the regional chief of the B.C. Assembly of First Nations, and started out as a Crown attorney. Those are excellent credentials for some whose job will to a high degree involve dealing with the truly horrid problems Canada is facing regarding aboriginal justice. Of course the issues are far broader than simple laws and enforcement, but at least there will be someone who actually gets it.

I have worked with Ms (now The Hon.) Wilson-Raybould in her capacity as Regional Chief for BC (I work at the AFN) and I can honestly say that she is an intelligent and hardworking individual. She’s going to have a tough job but she is capable of a reasonable and unbiased approach.

All in all, I like the choices made for Cabinet.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/431 "2015-11-04T19:33:39Z")

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Martin’s Minister of Finance, and a Sikh warrior for Minister of Defence. Wow!

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/432 "2015-11-04T19:43:46Z")

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> [@Das\_Glasperlenspiel](#):
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> I have worked with Ms (now The Hon.) Wilson-Raybould in her capacity as Regional Chief for BC (I work at the AFN) and I can honestly say that she is an intelligent and hardworking individual. She’s going to have a tough job but she is capable of a reasonable and unbiased approach.

That’s really good to hear, Das Glasperlenspiel.

My error re McCallum as having been Min Finance – he had been Min Rev. Either way, good to see someone with experience on the money side of government.

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/433 "2015-11-04T21:29:44Z")

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Interesting that some of the ministerial titles are different. That usually indicates at least some department name changes, or even a government reorganization to be announced later. I’ll have to watch for relevant Orders-in-Council.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/434 "2015-11-04T21:58:53Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> If the current government of Ontario is doing anything, in any area, you can be sure they’re fucking it up. So of course they’ll fuck up auto insurance.

My current fav is the way that they paid the teachers unions to show up and negotiate. And if The Sun is correct, I am not holding my breath, then Ontario have given elementary teachers [perpetual sick leave](http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/Canada/2015/11/03/22569114.html).

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/435 "2015-11-05T03:20:38Z")

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The teaching unions and Liberals have been bribing each other for years. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/436 "2015-11-05T18:36:17Z")

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I note Kirsty Duncan, our new Minister of Science, is no longer claiming to be a Nobel Prize winner, which is a nice change.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/437 "2015-11-05T18:39:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I note Kirsty Duncan, our new Minister of Science, is no longer claiming to be a Nobel Prize winner, which is a nice change.

She served on the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

I believe you may be referring to an old posting on her facebook page.

I put this in the same sour grapes pile as “Al Gore claimed he invented the internet.”  
You really should aspire to be better than this. Seriously.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/438 "2015-11-05T18:42:53Z")

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Conservatives are going to pick an interim leader today. The position will pay an extra $80,000 per year, on top of the $163,000 MP salary. Nice.

Each potential candidate will have three minutes to make their case in front of caucus. A three minute job interview. For an extra $6600/month.

We have no idea who is allowed to vote, and who will be making this decision. I personally wonder how much power Harper still wields within the party. We’ll see soon if the CPC decides to double down on the continuation of The Harper Party.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/439 "2015-11-05T18:50:35Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Conservatives are going to pick an interim leader today. The position will pay an extra $80,000 per year, on top of the $163,000 MP salary. Nice.
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> Each potential candidate will have three minutes to make their case in front of caucus. A three minute job interview. For an extra $6600/month.
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> We have no idea who is allowed to vote, and who will be making this decision. I personally wonder how much power Harper still wields within the party. We’ll see soon if the CPC decides to double down on the continuation of The Harper Party.

I suppose Bob Rae never got a raise as the interim Liberal leader after Ignatieff? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-2015-battlestar-canadica/708655/440 "2015-11-05T19:51:07Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I suppose Bob Rae never got a raise as the interim Liberal leader after Ignatieff? :rolleyes:

Was he also picked after a three minute interview? How much influence did Ignatieff have on the selection?

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