# Canadope Café 2018: Chatting Around the Campfire **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666 "2018-01-01T01:05:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/121 "2018-03-12T13:54:36Z")
I’m thinking we’re in for record low voter turnout for this election, to be honest. Even diehard Libs hate Whynn, I can see a LOT of people just not voting who normally vote Lib. More so for Ford, I should think. After all, Cons have been as vocal as any group in decrying the hypocrisy and/or moral bankruptcy of the Christian Right support for the Donald. Now they are being told to support a guy who they know is a boob, and will make them feel that same hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/122 "2018-03-12T14:17:15Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Not quite sure why you believe the G&M effectively only served Toronto, at that time. I think that’s mistaken. Ontario, maybe? I never saw a copy of the Globe & Mail for sale until I went to Kingston in the 80s. Can’t recall ever seeing it on a newsstand in Saskatchewan before that. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/123 "2018-03-12T14:57:20Z")
Notwithstanding, I’ve seen it in various international airports dating back to the 80’s! I’m guessing it enjoys an international profile unknown to many Canadians possibly? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/124 "2018-03-13T01:09:21Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Ontario, maybe? Southern Ontario, I’ll grant. I do recall it on newsstands in Kingston in the late 1960s, and we were always able to get it up in Ontario’s cottage country. I’d guess that **elbows** would also be able to get it in London. But it was never a national newspaper in those days. That started in (I think) the mid-to-late 1980s. When we lived in Calgary in the early-to-mid 1960s, we actually had a subscription–not delivered by the local paperboy, but by Canada Post. It arrived three days late, but it kept my Mom in touch with Toronto news. At any rate, it was unavailable on Calgary newsstands; and I’d guess, anywhere else outside southern Ontario. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/125 "2018-03-13T02:28:32Z")
So now we’ll have a. Interesting example of my thesis about not electing an outsider as leader. One difference from the BQ example, though, is that the election is coming up right away. That probably will force unity on the caucus, unlike a situation like the BQ, where an outsider gets elected without the immediate thrust of an election. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/126 "2018-03-13T03:55:56Z")
A Forum Research poll suggests (with regards to the Ontario provincial election): “The PCs would win 84 seats, while the NDP would serve as official opposition with 29. The Liberals would secure 11.” > **[Half of Ontarians Disapprove of Doug Ford as PC leader](http://poll.forumresearch.com/post/2835/doug-ford-leadership-march-2018/)** > > Toronto, March 11th – In a random sampling of public opinion taken by The Forum Poll™ among 923 Ontario voters, half (48%) say they disapprove of Doug Ford as leader of the Ontario Progressive Conservatives. One-third (36%) say they approve of his... ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/127 "2018-03-13T04:05:01Z")
Doug Ford is like Rob Ford but with less personal magnetism. Rob Ford was forgiven and liked by many of his constituents since he did take a personal interest in their concerns. I would prefer Mulroney or Elliot, or Brown. The PCs have a sizeable lead. They had that for several of the previous elections too. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/128 "2018-03-13T05:12:02Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > … > I’m with Gorsnak on this one; Ford is not some unknown. He is very well known, … He’s not very well-known here. I mean, of course I know who he is, but I don’t know much beyond that. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/129 "2018-03-14T04:14:14Z")
I would sure hope the people who were voting for leadership of the PC party knew him. And one presumes people voting in the election will look the guy up, too. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/130 "2018-03-29T21:59:59Z")
Have you guys heard of The Frontier Centre For Public Policy? I’ve been reading some articles from them, and I’m finding them to be a good representation of the other side of the story of some controversial issues. For example, here is a look at [Aboriginal children in Manitoba’s child welfare system.](https://fcpp.org/2018/03/16/we-want-simple-answers/) Another article I found to be a good look at another side of a divisive issue is this look at [the Colten Boushie case, with more background of what happened that day and more context.](https://fcpp.org/2018/02/24/get-out-of-jail-free-card/) ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/131 "2018-03-30T16:49:58Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Another article I found to be a good look at another side of a divisive issue is this look at [the Colten Boushie case, with more background of what happened that day and more context.](https://fcpp.org/2018/02/24/get-out-of-jail-free-card/) Once I got to “held hostage by corrupt administrations” I started to question the objectivity of the article. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/132 "2018-04-02T18:54:46Z")
Any idea on when we will hear a weather report that doesn’t involve the word, “minus”? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/133 "2018-04-02T20:18:40Z")
Hopefully not until May. Needs must have more skiing. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/134 "2018-04-03T11:17:08Z")
The latest Forum Research poll is now predicting a minority government for the Ontario PCs. Doug Ford is still being tight-lipped about what his platform is, while the Liberals and NDP are trying to outdo each other in spending promises. > **[Ontario poll suggests gap between Liberals and PCs has narrowed](https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/03/30/ontario-poll-suggests-gap-between-liberals-and-pcs-has-narrowed.html)** > > If the election were held Thursday, Doug Ford’s PCs would win a minority government with 57 seats, a Forum Poll survey found ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/135 "2018-04-03T16:13:50Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Hopefully not until May. :: shudder :: No. We need warmth and sunshine. We are already scratching at the walls. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/136 "2018-04-03T16:26:26Z")
I have an ice dam and a back yard full of snow. I want a nice, slow melt that doesn’t result in water in my basement or leaks in the roof. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/137 "2018-04-04T01:14:06Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > :: shudder :: > No. We need warmth and sunshine. We are already scratching at the walls. I’ve been doing that for a while now. Heck, in past years, I would have played at least one round of golf at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/138 "2018-04-05T00:37:44Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I have an ice dam and a back yard full of snow. I want a nice, slow melt that doesn’t result in water in my basement or leaks in the roof. Good luck with that. With seasonal normals already at +7 and another week of sub-zero in the forecast, when this cold snap finally breaks we’re likely to jump straight to +10 or 15 and have a very fast melt. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/139 "2018-04-05T02:07:05Z")
Lake effect snow, streaming off Lake Huron, high winds and, at times, sudden blinding squalls. That was my morning walk with my dog. However they expect it to worsen overnight. :(:(:(☹ ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/140 "2018-04-05T15:10:16Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Good luck with that. With seasonal normals already at +7 and another week of sub-zero in the forecast, when this cold snap finally breaks we’re likely to jump straight to +10 or 15 and have a very fast melt. With the snow overnight, i am starting to doubt spring is coming. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666.md?page=8)