# Canadope Café 2018:  Chatting Around the Campfire

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666 "2018-01-01T01:05:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/141 "2018-04-05T18:37:07Z")

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It’s probably because NOAA in conjunction with Weather Underground has a deal with US publicly open websites and message boards by which it delivers weather on demand. If, for example, one were to post “Winter Wonderland” in one’s personal location information on such a message board, NOAA would handle the macro climate for WU to deliver local cold and snow, the way Amazon delivers packages to Canada for the USPS at the American taxpayers’ cost.

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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/142 "2018-04-05T21:19:01Z")

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😃 I’ve had my bike ready to go for two weeks now, and I’ve had quite enough of winter thankyouverymuch. Even a hardcore Norwegian skier would be saying “enough already”! by this point! **Muffin** s excepted of course. Sicko.

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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/143 "2018-04-05T21:26:39Z")

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Article on the G & M Beijing Bureau: [Dateline Peking - The Globe and Mail](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/dateline-peking/article4304225/)  
snippet:

"Mr. Dalgleish, who lobbied for years to persuade Chinese authorities to allow the newspaper to open an office in Beijing (motivated by his personal belief that Beijing held the keys to ending the Cold War standoff between East and West), later revealed that Mr. Nossal had been his third nominee for the Beijing job. The Globe’s first two choices were rejected by Chinese authorities, who seemingly weren’t interested in anyone who might be able to mingle with the locals without their knowledge.

“We learned that anyone who had experience in China (pre- or post-revolutionary), anyone with knowledge of the language (unless a Party nominee), was unlikely to be welcome,” Mr. Dalgleish wrote of the selection process.

Worried that the Chinese would close the bureau he had fought so hard to have opened, he told Mr. Nossal to play it as straight as possible in his reporting. No interpreting, he said, just write what you see.

From the Chinese perspective, the reasons why The Globe and Mail was the first Western newspaper allowed to set up a bureau seem lost in the mists of time, with most of the officials involved either dead or claiming they can’t remember how it transpired.

“At that time, we welcomed media institutions, including some from Western countries, so long as they treated China as an equal and with due respect,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhang Yong ventured.

“Dr. [Norman]Bethune [a Gravenhurst, Ont.-born physician famous in China for treating Communist fighters during the Second World War]was also from Canada, so there was always some special bond. Maybe there were political reasons, maybe not.” "

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/144 "2018-04-07T02:08:54Z")

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Hockey bus crash in Saskatchewan.

Humboldt Broncos were travelling to Tisdale for JHL play-off. Initial reports say a semi ran an intersection on the highway and broad-sided it.

RCMP confirm “multiple fatalities” and multiple injuries.

Helicopter ambulances from Regina and Saskatoon both dispatched.

Parents waiting anxiously in a local church for news …

ETA: heard from someone in Humboldt - as many as 15 may be dead.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/145 "2018-04-07T02:41:38Z")

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:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(☹

Eerie that it’s another Broncos team. In '86 the WHL’s Swift Current Broncos were in a bus crash that left 4 dead.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/146 "2018-04-07T03:21:08Z")

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Fuck

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/147 "2018-04-07T04:10:40Z")

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> **['One of the darkest days in the history of Saskatchewan' as 14 die in bus crash](https://macleans.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan-truck-crashes-into-bus-carrying-junior-hockey-team/)**
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> The Humboldt Broncos junior hockey team were on their way to a game when the crash occurred, which also sent 15 to hospital

Macleans article.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/148 "2018-04-07T04:22:22Z")

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Mrs Piper is from that area and recognised one of the family names of a player likely on the bus.

Three helicopter ambulances were dispatched, not two, according to one news story.

I had the town wrong - the Humboldt team was travelling to Nipawin for the game against the Nipawin Hawks.

The accident occurred a quarter mile from the house of the parents of one of the players. They were able to get to the crash site and pick up their son, who’s not hurt.

A crane is being used on the remains of the bus.

Canoe News article with picture of the team and coaches in their locker room. How many of those kids are dead?

> **[15 dead in Humboldt Broncos hockey team bus crash](https://canoe.com/news/national/theres-a-lot-of-tears-deadly-crash-between-truck-bus-carrying-saskatchewan-junior-hockey-team)**
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> UPDATE: On April 9, Saskatchewan’s Ministry of Justice says the body of Parker Tobin was mistaken for that of Xavier Labelle. Labelle is injured but alive, and…

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/149 "2018-04-07T15:06:21Z")

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Mrs Piper knows the mom of one of the players, from her home town.

The mom hasn’t posted anything to Facebook since the crash.

Doesn’t sound good. ☹

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/150 "2018-04-07T15:47:56Z")

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When I first heard of this crash, I swear, I could hear an entire nation gasp in horror.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/151 "2018-04-07T22:06:09Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> Once I got to “held hostage by corrupt administrations” I started to question the objectivity of the article.

Corrupt administrations on reservations is one of the biggest problems that aboriginal people have.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/152 "2018-04-07T22:08:17Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> When I first heard of this crash, I swear, I could hear an entire nation gasp in horror.

No kidding. I heard the early news last night before bed, with just “fatalities” at that point. This morning, my heart sank in my chest when I heard it was at least 14 fatalities, and some kids still critically injured. Poor kids. Poor families.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/153 "2018-04-07T23:23:09Z")

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It’s too horrible to even comprehend.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/154 "2018-04-08T00:29:58Z")

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Death toll has gone up to 15, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/155 "2018-04-08T00:53:52Z")

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By the way, if some of you don’t normally go to Game Room, I started a thread there on the accident.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/156 "2018-04-24T00:22:46Z")

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Today’s Toronto sidewalk slaughter has left a two year old orphan. The mom was one of my niece’s besties.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/157 "2018-04-24T00:29:22Z")

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Fuck.

I have nothing more to say.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/158 "2018-04-24T03:34:39Z")

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I live just a few blocks away from Yonge and Finch, so it’s weird to see all kinds of news coverage of my local neighbourhood. It took some additional time and effort getting home from work as well, not surprisingly.

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**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/159 "2018-04-24T14:52:27Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> I live just a few blocks away from Yonge and Finch, so it’s weird to see all kinds of news coverage of my local neighbourhood. It took some additional time and effort getting home from work as well, not surprisingly.

I know I’m not in the same blood region I’m going to donate blood today.

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/160 "2018-05-02T16:55:21Z")

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What in the world was Hoffa doing in Calgary?

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