# Canadope Café 2018:  Chatting Around the Campfire

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 1, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666 "2018-01-01T01:05:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/161 "2018-05-03T10:43:55Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> What in the world was Hoffa doing in Calgary?

Is this the set up for a joke?

I dunno **Muffin**. What _WAS_ Hoffa doing in Calgary?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/162 "2018-05-03T12:58:10Z")

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I believe he 's referring rather cryptically to the story on the body found behind the wall in a women’s washroom in a Calgary mall:

> **[Man died accidentally after climbing behind women's washroom wall, Calgary...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-mall-body-washroom-wall-public-police-homicide-1.4645550)**
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> A man whose body was found inside a wall in a washroom in a Calgary mall seems to have died accidentally, police say.

We’re discussing it, with our usual Doper tact and sensitivity to a personal tragedy, in the “Cask of Amontillado” thread:

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=854072](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=854072)

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/163 "2018-05-03T13:08:02Z")

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Bingo.

For years there has been a rumour going around that [Hoffa was buried in the Giant’s stadium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giants_Stadium#The_Jimmy_Hoffa_urban_legend). Now it looks like it might have been Calgary.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/164 "2018-05-03T13:23:59Z")

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Just started a thread in Elections:

“Ontario provincial election: The Return of Ford Nation, Part II.”

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/165 "2018-05-09T18:49:05Z")

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It’s getting even more weird with the NDP on the Hill. Weir was tossed from caucus following an investigation arising from Moore’s sex allegations against him, and now the vet Moore is under investigation arising from a wounded and at the time medicated vet’s sex allegations against her.

What is it about politics that attracts these types?

> **[Singh says he wasn't aware of 'impropriety' allegations against Moore | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/singh-moore-suspension-ndp-1.4655155)**
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> NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said neither he nor his team were aware of the inappropriate conduct allegations against caucus member Christine Moore, despite the complainant's claim that it was an open secret in Ottawa.

> **[NDP suspends MP Christine Moore from duties following allegations of misconduct](https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1228729923539)**
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> The federal NDP has suspended MP Christine Moore from duties while she is investigated following allegations of misconduct.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/166 "2018-05-15T23:05:28Z")

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Remember that court case a couple of years ago where a child died because the parents tried curing his meningitis with homeopathic remedies? Looks like their appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada was successful–in a way. The Supreme Court has ordered a new trial:

[http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/collet-david-stephan-supreme-court-squash-convictions-toddler-son-meningitis-death-1.4663483](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/collet-david-stephan-supreme-court-squash-convictions-toddler-son-meningitis-death-1.4663483)

A date for the new trial has not been set, but I guess the local courthouse will be a zoo again at some point. Media, pro- and anti-vaxxers–it’ll be an experience!

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/167 "2018-05-16T02:10:04Z")

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Vid of my city (I’m fourth generation): Thunder Bay. My neighbourhood at 0:43, my club at 1:14, and lots of shots of places I paddle on Gitcheegumi. [Thunder Bay Drone Video Four Seasons - YouTube](https://youtu.be/-7ZfNLh0opA)

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/168 "2018-06-01T11:37:59Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Remember that court case a couple of years ago where a child died because the parents tried curing his meningitis with homeopathic remedies? Looks like their appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada was successful–in a way. The Supreme Court has ordered a new trial:
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> [Supreme Court orders new trial for Alberta parents convicted in meningitis death of toddler | CBC News](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/collet-david-stephan-supreme-court-squash-convictions-toddler-son-meningitis-death-1.4663483)
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> A date for the new trial has not been set, but I guess the local courthouse will be a zoo again at some point. Media, pro- and anti-vaxxers–it’ll be an experience!

Ridiculous really. If these parents had only put as much effort into saving their child as they have their legal defense. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/169 "2018-06-01T17:07:37Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> Ridiculous really. If these parents had only put as much effort into saving their child as they have their legal defense. :mad:

Word.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/170 "2018-06-06T21:28:04Z")

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[Rex Murphy on the federal government buy-out of the Kinder-Morgan pipeline.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/road-ahead-opinion-rex-murphy-trans-mountain-buyout-1.4692446) It’s an interesting take on the whole issue - how PM Trudeau and his government have created the whole situation in BC, and how the pipeline twinning is _still_ not certain to be built.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/171 "2018-06-07T06:37:38Z")

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I still don’t understand why the process isn’t set once the application is made. If you jump through all the hoops, then you get your permit. The hoop location, size and when it needs to be jumped through shouldn’t be allowed to be changed after a certain point.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/172 "2018-06-07T23:59:07Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> I still don’t understand why the process isn’t set once the application is made. If you jump through all the hoops, then you get your permit. The hoop location, size and when it needs to be jumped through shouldn’t be allowed to be changed after a certain point.

I agree with you, most of Alberta agrees with you, most of BC agrees with you (barring the Vancouver hypocrites), and the courts of Canada agree with you. Premier Horgan and his Green Party alliance are about the only ones who _don’t_ agree with you, and unfortunately, they are being allowed to hold up the whole process.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/173 "2018-06-08T04:47:52Z")

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It’s official; Ontarians have lost their goddamned minds.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/174 "2018-06-08T05:11:06Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> It’s official; Ontarians have lost their goddamned minds.

That’s a mighty big assumption. It assumes there was something to lose!

Sent from my SM-N910U using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/175 "2018-06-08T12:10:28Z")

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The Ontario Liberals have mismanaged just about every portfolio for 15 years now. We needed change, and we got it. Finally.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/176 "2018-06-08T15:03:12Z")

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Honestly the Liberals should have lost back in 2014 but the PCs blew it. So a tired government limped forward and finally collapsed.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/177 "2018-06-08T15:55:28Z")

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Alberta is going to do the same thing next year when we elect the waste of skin that is Jason Kenney as our premier. As Canadians, I’m starting to think that we can’t mock the US Americans too relentlessly for electing Tr\*mp when we are going down that same goddamned path ourselves. ☹

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/178 "2018-06-08T17:38:27Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Alberta is going to do the same thing next year when we elect the waste of skin that is Jason Kenney as our premier. As Canadians, I’m starting to think that we can’t mock the US Americans too relentlessly for electing Tr\*mp when we are going down that same goddamned path ourselves. ☹

Yes, this election is a serious blow to Canadians’ sense of superiority – by which I mean patriotism.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/179 "2018-06-11T00:33:51Z")

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**Trump has done the impossible!**

He’s got Conservatives saying nice things about Justin Trudeau!

Scheer, Ford and Harper have all come out in support of Trudeau, calling for unified support for Trudeau as he deals with the US on trade.

What a victory for Trump’s deal-making skillz!

> **[Trump's tirade sparks calls for calm, promises of support for Trudeau](https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/trump-s-tirade-sparks-calls-for-calm-promises-of-support-for-trudeau-1.3967602)**
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> Leaders from across Canada's political spectrum voiced their support Sunday for free trade and opposition to U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum while denouncing the Trump administration's unprecedented attacks on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadope-cafe-2018-chatting-around-the-campfire/805666/180 "2018-06-11T01:01:15Z")

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Jason Kenney, too. A miracle, truly.

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