# Cancel Culture and Canceling versus consequences for actions **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 8, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644 "2025-07-08T22:55:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/615 "2025-07-17T20:23:54Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > What I would NOT do is defend my shitty past-self’s behavior or start screaming about free speech. By way of showing a little empathy toward that kind of thing, modern social media very often attaches your real name to your blatherings, and broadcasts them far and wide to people who ordinarily wouldn’t have heard them, and they can potentially stay online forever for a future boss, friend, family member, or romantic partner to find. Not just the thing you said, but exhaustive critique and mockery of it, and any ill-advised reactions you may have had. I think a lot of people have a fight-or-flight response when they realize this has happened to them, and a lot of people double down into fight mode. I have empathy for people getting hit by that intial social-media shame tsunami. It’s more than humans are equipped to deal with. I understand how it makes people want to double down, but I don’t empathize with people who do. Even though the criticism makes it harder and more humiliating to apologize and repent, you’ve still done a bad thing, and the same redemptive measures are still required even though it’s really hard. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/616 "2025-07-17T21:41:17Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I believe bigotry is a grave moral failing, and we should try to rehabilitate bigots. I believe that preference for ingroup over outgroup is inherent to human nature. It’s something you can try to reduce and minimise, in yourself and in society, but not get rid of entirely. Since it became taboo to be bigoted towards the usual groups (foreigners, people of difference races or religions, etc) the ingroups and outgroups have become political tribes for many Americans. Hence why some will openly say they’d refuse to hire a Trump supporter, and others are desperate to ‘own the libs’. That doesn’t mean bigotry is not a moral failing. Many things that are part of human nature are moral failings. I just don’t see it as a special kind of evil, different from selfishness, greed, cowardice, cruelty, etc. Serious bigotry, like the hypothetical Nazi coffee shop owner, is a grave moral failing. Thoughtlessly telling a racist joke is a minor moral failing. Bullying someone due to bigotry is no worse than bullying them because you just don’t like their face. Both are wrong. Do you agree? > [@puzzlegal](#): > > But perhaps you conflate “punish bigots” with “protect other people from unrepentant bigots”? I don’t think so, given we are usually talking about getting people fired for something they said outside work, possibly on anonymous social media. If they had been acting inappropriately towards co-workers or customers, presumably they would already have been let go. There are cases of people ‘cancelled’ for something they said years ago, based on views they no longer hold. And in those cases, they usually do apologise, and insist they have changed. It’s not uncommon for people accused of recent infractions to do those awful performative apologies too, though it seldom seems to help them. Unless you mean ‘protecting people’ by stopping ideas from spreading, in which case we are back at the goal being censorship. My view is that the outcry against ‘cancel culture’ is mostly a pushback against that censorship going too far. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/617 "2025-07-18T00:05:12Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Unless you mean ‘protecting people’ by stopping ideas from spreading, in which case we are back at the goal being censorship. My view is that the outcry against ‘cancel culture’ is mostly a pushback against that censorship going too far. The evidence, coming from what the Right-wing is doing nowadays, shows that the left was correct about what the right was planning for exaggerating their “cancellations”. > **[https://preview.redd.it/the-word-canceled-and-incel-pandering-content-creators-n...](https://preview.redd.it/the-word-canceled-and-incel-pandering-content-creators-name-v0-0sc9y8ri05pc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=1cae4edb418d729f85414c586a71efdb1a0e9387)** Then, thanks to money from powerful people, they get also elected and then, whatever smells like good info, gets cancelled. > **[GOP-led Senate votes to cancel $9 billion in funding for foreign aid, NPR and...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-vote-claw-back-9-billion-funding-npr-pbs-foreign-aid-rcna219088)** > > The spending cuts package, requested by the White House, heads back to the House ahead of a Friday deadline for Trump to sign it into law. Systematic censorship of what they dislike indeed. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/618 "2025-07-18T00:19:48Z")
So far, we’ve had one post with examples of people who lost jobs due to bring cancelled, and it turned out most of that list was bogus. I don’t think “cancel culture”'s impact in bigots is anything like as big a problem as you think it is. > [@DemonTree](#): > > That doesn’t mean bigotry is not a moral failing. Many things that are part of human nature are moral failings. I just don’t see it as a special kind of evil, different from selfishness, greed, cowardice, cruelty, etc. You know what, people who are bigoted, or selfish, or cruel who restrain themselves from acting on those impulses are everywhere, because yes, those are all common human failings. But when people act on their bigotry, their cruelty, their greed, then yes, the rest of society should rein them in. And we have both legal and social ways to do so, for most vices , depending on how badly you fall into them. I certainly wouldn’t hire someone as an actuary who had a reputation for exercising cruelty. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/619 "2025-07-18T01:45:18Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > However, I think you are quite wrong that it means behaviour at the event. If your ‘transphobic person’ has always acted unexceptionally at the ladies’ night, but is discovered to have retweeted JK Rowling, then she is getting banned, no? Whether she is or not (and it’s impossible to determine that without knowing exactly what she did and what the venue’s views on it are), getting banned for her behavior outside of the event itself is still unquestionably getting banned because of what she does rather than because of “who she is”. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/620 "2025-07-18T02:18:28Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > I feel we need to circle back to this, and other consistent complaints that “people on the left” are doing this/that/other when it comes to ‘cancelling’ people or ideas. A few of DemonTree’s remarks to that effect in this thread, none of them accompanied by cites: > [@DemonTree](#): > > I’m not sure how much the modern left disapproves […] Seems to me that portions of it have embraced support for censorship and enforcing conformity in general. > > This is what the left has been doing. This is exactly what started me questioning, and led to my eventual disillusionment when I realised how illiberal the left had truly become. > > A few years ago, I told you your strategy would lead to exactly the outcome you feared. > > Those actions are what we can’t afford to tolerate, because it makes society less tolerant. But that’s what the left has been doing. And they’ve made liberal use of pejorative labels to do it. > > What I see happening, and object to, is that sometimes “have that conversation respectfully” is nothing more than an excuse not to have that conversation at all, or to predetermine the outcome, because any disagreement with the social justice activist position is defined as disrespectful, or bigoted in some way. > > social media is full of people who believe ‘inclusion’ means excluding anyone with differing views, and defend this position by misusing Popper’s paradox of tolerance. > > ‘Social justice’ groups take this up to 11 by creating extra ways to screw up in the form of microaggressions, ‘dogwhistles’, and stereotypes that that you may well never have heard of, and by deciding a list of common words and phrases are now offensive and must be replaced with clunky euphemisms. > > I often see leftists talking about the root causes of crime, and generally making excuses for criminals. […] And then social justice supporters demand that people be fired, and pressure their friends to denounce them, for mildly going against the progressive consensus on some issue. > > … you’ve been polite, helpful, and generally friendly towards me. That is decidedly contrary to my experience with most progressives, who tend to assume anyone who disagrees with them must be either ignorant or evil, and display none of their self-proclaimed empathy\* when dealing with ideological opponents. > > I often encounter people on the left who try to empathize with and even excuse actual criminals (blaming poverty, mostly) and say that prison should not be about punishing people, but rehabilitating them. And I often encounter people on the left who treat bigotry as a grave moral failing, and do not at all try to empathize with why the person might have those views, or try to excuse them. This sort of vague virtue-signaling blather is ultimately impossible to argue with, not because it’s correct, but because it’s congenitally indefinite. Simply declare yourself to be fighting under the banner of some self-evidently noble principle like free speech and anti-censorship, and keep on claiming that some vaguely identified ideological opponents are constantly sabotaging this principle, without substantiating the claims with specific relevant examples or reliable quantitative data. Then no argument will ever modify your views, because they’re based on your accumulated “experience” of what you “seem” to be “seeing” through your thick lens of confirmation bias, rather than on any specific falsifiable assertions. What we end up with is not a factually based description of any real-life party or ideology but rather just a psychological snapshot of the virtue signaler who claims to be opposing it. Not much to debate. ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/621 "2025-07-18T06:35:24Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > This sort of vague virtue-signaling blather is ultimately impossible to argue with, not because it’s correct, but because it’s congenitally indefinite. What sort of evidence do you believe would be sufficient to support **DemonTree’s** assertions? It seems to me that there could be quite a few isolated anecdotes, but my impression is that you’d consider these insufficient. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/622 "2025-07-18T07:53:56Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > So far, we’ve had one post with examples of people who lost jobs due to bring cancelled, and it turned out most of that list was bogus. I don’t think “cancel culture”'s impact in bigots is anything like as big a problem as you think it is. Most of the cases I’ve seen were not famous people, and it would be hard to find them again or dig up info. I could try: I do remember a few names, but it would be a lot of work. And based on past experience, very much confirmed in this thread, I think most people here would support the majority of those firings. That’s why I haven’t done that large amount of work. What would it really prove? You would all confirm your belief that there is no problem, and I would confirm my belief that (this corner of) the left supports censorship. What do you think? Would it benefit the discussion enough to be worth the effort involved? Meanwhile, the right never stopped supporting censorship, and now have far less restraint and more power to enforce their will. I had some small hope that the experience of once again being on the wrong end of the censorship equation, and the war in Gaza that caused an intra-left split on which views should be suppressed, would have changed a few minds. Not here, at least. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > You know what, people who are bigoted, or selfish, or cruel who restrain themselves from acting on those impulses are everywhere, because yes, those are all common human failings. But when people act on their bigotry, their cruelty, their greed, then yes, the rest of society should rein them in. And we have both legal and social ways to do so, for most vices , depending on how badly you fall into them. I certainly wouldn’t hire someone as an actuary who had a reputation for exercising cruelty. There are a few different problems with ‘cancel culture’. One is ‘social media amplifying someone’s bad decision and ruining their life (at least temporarily) over one mistake’. Maybe the person deserved some kind of censure, but the ‘punishment’ is grossly disproportionate to the ‘crime’. This could happen over any kind of vice, and I can think of non-bigotry-related cases. It’s primarily an issue caused by new technology. Another issue is the innocent person who is falsely accused. That has always been a problem with community gossip; social media just vastly increased the size of the community. I don’t think anyone is going to defend this; the question is how much collateral damage you are comfortable with. The one I am primarily concerned with is labelling non-bigoted beliefs and actions as bigotry, and non- or no more than usually bigoted people as bigots, to avoid having to defend your own beliefs from justified criticism, and to advance your political program. Here again, the people who are harmed are just collateral damage. I don’t know how to address this when it has in fact been a pretty effective tactic. It’s tempting to fight fire with fire, but that just leads to a worse world in general. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/623 "2025-07-18T09:40:24Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Bullying someone due to bigotry People facing consequences for their own actual actions is in no way, shape or form “bullying”. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/624 "2025-07-18T11:11:29Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Most of the cases I’ve seen were not famous people, and it would be hard to find them again or dig up info. I could try: I do remember a few names, but it would be a lot of work. And based on past experience, very much confirmed in this thread, I think most people here would support the majority of those firings. That’s why I haven’t done that large amount of work. What would it really prove? Why is it such a large amount of work? You seem quite convinced this is a widespread phenomenon. If that were the case, you should already have notable examples at the top of your mind. I think you’re dodging the work because you know you’re out over your skis, so you’re deflecting it by saying we’re too stubborn to consider your carefully curated examples. That’s awfully convenient! It lets you hide behind vague sketches and strawmen. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/625 "2025-07-18T11:31:03Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > There are a few different problems with ‘cancel culture’. One is ‘social media amplifying someone’s bad decision and ruining their life (at least temporarily) over one mistake’. Maybe the person deserved some kind of censure, but the ‘punishment’ is grossly disproportionate to the ‘crime’. This could happen over any kind of vice, and I can think of non-bigotry-related cases. It’s primarily an issue caused by new technology. I think we definitely have a problem with social media amplifying all sorts of things. That it amplifies the impact of being caught out for bigotry is far from the most serious problem. Personally, i think the amplification of bigotry is a far greater problem caused by social media. But social media does make cancel culture more more obvious. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/626 "2025-07-18T12:27:04Z")
**Moderating:** Please don’t make this about another poster, as we say attack the post, not the poster. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/627 "2025-07-18T18:29:01Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Most of the cases I’ve seen were not famous people, and it would be hard to find them again or dig up info. I could try: I do remember a few names, but it would be a lot of work. And based on past experience, very much confirmed in this thread, I think most people here would support the majority of those firings. This is a really neat trick. It implies that others are unjustifiably censorious based on evidence that they’re not even allowed to discuss, and we’re expected to let it slide because “it would be a lot of work” for you. If you were simply fabricating examples from whole cloth, how would that look different from what you’re doing here? ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/628 "2025-07-18T18:56:47Z")
I think the example of Nick Sandmann might work? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/629 "2025-07-18T21:33:46Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > I think the example of Nick Sandmann might work? Does it? Is he really “cancelled”? Does he appear to have missed out on any educational or employment opportunities due to his actions? Because it seems to me that he’s done quite well for himself, and his future prospects have done nothing but improve since he first showed up on TV. ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/630 "2025-07-18T21:53:42Z")
He was a 14 year old boy. Someone took a photograph of him wearing a MAGA cap and looking a bit smarmy as he smirked at an old man. For that, he became an international hate figure. Literally, the firestorm of abuse he suffered was reported on by the BBC. Just think about how crazy that is. There’s no nice way to say this; thousands of American leftists saw that picture and went temporarily insane. Some of them were celebrities with commensurately large followings. IIRC, Kathy Griffin, Reza Aslan, and at least a couple of other public figures publicly encouraged people to dox Sandmann and beat him up. I don’t like the phrase “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, but the progressive left’s reaction to that photo _was_ TDS. There’s just no other term that fits. It certainly wasn’t justified by Sandmann’s actions. There’s video footage showing that all he did was smirk at an old man. You did worse than that when you were his age. So did I. So did every single person who spent the next fortnight harassing him. I say all this to make the point that, _if_ Sandmann is thriving and successful now (as I fervently hope he is) it’s very much in spite of the cyberbullies who tried to destroy him. I can’t imagine how traumatic that level and nature of attention must’ve been for a child his age. Kids have killed themselves over far less. So frankly, I don’t care how successful he might be now. He could be a billionaire for all I care. An _attempt_ was made, by leftists - thousands of them, working in unison - to destroy his life over _absolutely nothing_, it very easily could’ve succeeded, and if it _had_ succeeded I’m sure they’d have been very pleased with themselves. As far as I can tell, that’s the kind of thing **DemonTree** is talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/631 "2025-07-18T22:00:46Z")
Does it stand to reason, then - and I’m not saying this is your position - that nobody should ever face public shaming for any reason, barring, say, a legal conviction? I would hope we can agree that what happened to that boy was unconscionable. Is there anything that warrants public shaming? Are there cases where public shaming serves a useful societal function? Or is it always bad? ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/632 "2025-07-18T22:06:04Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Does it stand to reason, then - and I’m not saying this is your position - that nobody should ever face public shaming for any reason, barring, say, a legal conviction? Oh, not at all. I remember a few years ago there was a video that went viral of some guy in a fast food place going apeshit at this poor Asian girl behind the counter over some trivial thing or other. He was twice her size, screaming in her face, and being racist to boot. Cancel that fucker all you like. I don’t think cancellations are bad _per se_, but I do think there have been a lot of bad cancellations, and often the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. And to be clear, I don’t think it’s an exclusively left-wing phenomenon. I’ve seen right-wingers do it too. My impression is that it does seem to be a _predominantly_ left-wing phenomenon, but that could just be a reflection of the fact that leftists tend to be younger and more online. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/633 "2025-07-18T22:37:28Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > My impression is that it does seem to be a _predominantly_ left-wing phenomenon, but that could just be a reflection of the fact that leftists tend to be younger and more online. I don’t think it’s predominantly a left-wing phenomenon. Maybe it used to be, but there are plenty of young, online rightists these days. Since the left-wingers decamped to Bluesky, I rarely see left-wing cancellations any more. All the examples I can think of are from a few years ago. But libsoftiktok highlights people in a way likely to get them harassed, and possibly get them in trouble with employers, and I’ve seen right-wingers go after academics studying sexuality, especially paedophilia. I mentioned that earlier in the thread, but no one was very interested. I think who cancels more depends on the balance of power. The left had, and in some ways still has, a lot of institutional power, but the American right has grabbed the reins of political power and is using it to attack institutions that, in their view, are controlled by their enemy. And they are doing a lot of damage to the country and even the world in the process. ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/634 "2025-07-18T22:40:45Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > But libsoftiktok highlights people in a way likely to get them harassed, and possibly get them in trouble with employers, Good point. I’d forgotten about her. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644.md?page=22)