# Cancel Culture and Canceling versus consequences for actions

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 8, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644 "2025-07-08T22:55:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/755 "2025-07-21T15:34:39Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I’m gonna go with “Yeah, looks like”.

“Looks like nothing false has ever been posted on social media.”

So the article is bullshit, and you’re doubling down on your claim that social media is exquisitely honest. **[Except of course it isn’t](https://netsafe.org.nz/online-abuse-and-harassment/false-allegations-online)**.

**[Not at all.](https://www.titanllp.com/exploring-the-profound-impact-of-false-sexual-assault-allegations.html)**

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > because anyone accused of anything in a social media post is, of course, guilty
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> “anyone” and “many” are quite different concepts. _You_ said “many

Where did I say “many”?

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> And frankly, it doesn’t just affect her, it affects every other person who thinks, “is it worth the global hatred to come forward about my abuse?”. In general, the answer to that question is, “no, it isn’t”.

Yes, this is a problem, but come on, after Hardwick was reinstated, is it really discouraging abused women to come forward if one concludes that maybe the investigations found that Dysktra’s accusations may have been exaggerated or lacked mitigating context? Else, realistically, why was he reinstated?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/756 "2025-07-21T15:40:22Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> So i certainly believe that accusations are sometimes false.

Oh, I have no doubt false accusation happen and can be damaging. Even of wealthy powerful men. It’s just not the way I choose to bet. Case in point:

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> So the article is bullshit,

If it’s citing Johnny fucking Depp as a false accusation, hell yeah it is.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> your claim that social media is exquisitely honest.

_You_ doubling down on this ridiculous strawman is both boring, and renders it obvious to everyone else here that you don’t really have an actual argument to make.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Where did I say “many”?

I quoted you saying it.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/757 "2025-07-21T15:45:16Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Social media has made lots and lots of bad things easier, including trying to harm someone by spreading lies.
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> But the problem there isn’t “cancel culture” - it’s that some people spread lies, some people don’t adequately analyze and confirm what they see online, etc. As is often the case, the solution is critical thinking, not some change in philosophy against online criticism, boycotts, advocacy, etc.

With the exception of your first phrase, that’s pretty much what I said here:

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Returning to the topic of the thread, my fervent wish on this whole business of cancel culture is that maybe people shouldn’t so willingly accept everything they read on social media. Maybe they should at least consider the possibility that what someone has posted is not entirely true, or maybe not true at all, instead of getting sucked into mob hysteria. Maybe they should consider how ulterior motives might play into what someone has posted. Maybe they should withhold judgment until actual facts are known.
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> Maybe social media posters should act more like adults and less like schoolyard bullies, and when they do act like bullies, readers should be appropriately skeptical. At least the worst that schoolyard bullies can do is punch someone in the nose. Social media bullies can destroy innocent lives. They can literally drive people to suicide.

But I disagree with the first phrase. I think that social media is a very powerful enabling tool for cancel culture. The people who spread lies for whatever reason – and there can be a lot of motivations for doing it – are enabled both by the ability of social media to rapidly spread defamatory lies, and by the bias of cancel culture to uncritically believe them.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/758 "2025-07-21T15:48:02Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > Where did I say “many”?
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> I quoted you saying it.

Let’s see that quote again, or kindly make a retraction. Because I never said I personally knew “many” individuals who were falsely accused in social media.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/759 "2025-07-21T15:49:13Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> > [@puzzlegal](#):
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> > And frankly, it doesn’t just affect her, it affects every other person who thinks, “is it worth the global hatred to come forward about my abuse?”. In general, the answer to that question is, “no, it isn’t”.
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> Yes, this is a problem, but come on, after Hardwick was reinstated, is it really discouraging abused women to come forward if one concludes that maybe the investigations found that Dysktra’s accusations may have been exaggerated or lacked mitigating context? Else, realistically, why was he reinstated?

Because in “he said/she said” situations, there often isn’t enough information for an outsider to know for sure what happened, and so the one who is more valuable to the investigating organization is likely to “win”. There are lots of cases of real abuse that are never provable.

So yes, it damn well is discouraging. And your certainly that he’s innocent and she made shit up is part of what’s discouraging.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/760 "2025-07-21T16:06:54Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I’m sure you know that’s not what I meant. As I noted above, what I said about Dykstra could have been published on the front page of the _New York Times_ and not affected her career one iota.

You don’t think a headline in the New York Times stating, “Chloe Dykstra makes false accusations about sexual abuse” would affect her future career opportunities? Like, folks looking to hire her wouldn’t Google her name, see that, and think, “What if we hire her and she starts making false accusations against people in this office?”

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Chris Hardwick, who was able to salvage his reputation against cancel culture slurs from his ex-wife

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> To the extent that (for instance) Chris Hardwick’s ex-wife was empowered to try to exploit the movement by libeling him on social media, that was a very bad thing.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Her harangue might in the past have been attributed to the venting of a bitter ex.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> This was a completely spontaneous unprovoked posting in _Medium_. So what was the purpose of it? I don’t know and you don’t know, but for a likely explanation, I refer you to the title of this thread.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Given that an independent investigation commissioned by AMC in conjunction with a major law firm found that Dysktra tried to smear Hardwick with unsubstantiated accusations, I wouldn’t consider any of Dysktra’s claims to be credible.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> . And her refusal to participate in the subsequent investigations is also very suspect and not characteristic of someone who genuinely wants the full truth to come out.

Curious which, if any, of these statements you still stand behind.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
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> [@Miller](#):
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> You don’t think a headline in the New York Times stating, “Chloe Dykstra makes false accusations about sexual abuse” would affect her future career opportunities?

Apparently not, since that’s **[pretty much exactly what happened](https://www.tmz.com/2018/06/15/chris-hardwick-denies-sexual-assault-chloe-dykstra-abuse-relationship/)**, though the headline was in TMZ, not _New York Times_.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/763 "2025-07-21T16:19:57Z")

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You said “many lesser individuals have not [been restored like Hardwick]” and when directly challenged “Name them”, you came up with your Canadian Girlfriend evasion of “cases of which I have first-hand or indirect knowledge”.

So no, no retraction from me. You definitely said “many”, and then intimated they were ones you knew personally. Backpedal all you want, but that’s the chain.

Unless the defence here is going to be “Weee-elll, I only know _one_ actually first-hand … and ‘indirect knowledge’ means I read it on Reddit”?

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> that’s **[pretty much exactly what happened](https://www.tmz.com/2018/06/15/chris-hardwick-denies-sexual-assault-chloe-dykstra-abuse-relationship/)**,

Holy Hastur : do you not _see_ the difference between that article saying “Hardwick denies claims” and the hypothetical “Dykstra makes false accusations” one? They are in no way “exactly” the same. Unless “pretty much” is doing so much weasel-wording it could temporarily take over Toad Hall.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
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That article did lead me down a rabbit hole, to find out that Dykstra faced such organized hate and threats online that it almost drove her to suicide. So maybe this is an example of cancel culture after all: once again, rightwing misogynists are trying to cancel women for speaking up.

> **[Survivors Used #MeToo to Speak Up. A Year Later, They're Still Fighting for...](https://time.com/5401638/silence-breakers-one-year-later-2/)**
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> “You can’t really Google, “How to handle being an accuser?”

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
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So the two archetypal examples of “cancel culture” lauded in this thread (Hardwick and fourteen-year-old I can’t be arsed to look up) didn’t actually result in “cancellation”.

This has been a very informative discussion…

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/766 "2025-07-21T16:39:20Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> do you not _see_ the difference between that article saying “Hardwick denies claims” and the hypothetical “Dykstra makes false accusations” one? They are in no way “exactly” the same.

Social media has interpreted them as exactly the same:

**[Chris Hardwick responds, saying Chloe Dykstra is lying](https://www.facebook.com/TMZ/posts/chris-hardwick-responds-saying-chloe-dykstra-is-lying-about-allegations-he-sexua/10160949257270713/)**

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> You said “many lesser individuals have not [been restored like Hardwick]” and when directly challenged “Name them”, you came up with your Canadian Girlfriend evasion of “cases of which I have first-hand or indirect knowledge”.
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> So no, no retraction from me. You definitely said “many”, and then intimated they were ones you knew personally. Backpedal all you want, but that’s the chain.

I’m not backpedaling. “Many lesser individuals” was a reference to a general phenomenon in social media today, as per the numerous cites you can find (I gave you three) describing defamation in social media as a rampant problem and how to fight back against it. The cases I know of first-hand or indirectly (indirectly meaning second-hand, through trusted friends) I have never characterized as “many”. The “intimation” is yours and yours alone. But I doubt I’ll ever get that retraction.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Social media has interpreted them as exactly the same:

Yes: right-wing misogynists use social media to cancel Chloe Dykstra, using arguments similar to the ones you’re using here. Is that the point you’re intending to make?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/768 "2025-07-21T16:49:08Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The cases I know of first-hand or indirectly (indirectly meaning second-hand, through trusted friends)

Fyi, here is an example of giving evidence for a claim of “what you’ve seen it heard from close friends” without revealing a lot of information online:

> [@Cancel Culture and Canceling versus consequences for actions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/754):
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> I know two people who have been falsely accused, both accusations made to their employer, not on the Internet. So not actually “cancel culture”. Fwiw, both were white men and I suspect both would have ultimately won in the court of opinion had it gotten to the Internet. One was a colleague of my husband, accused of hitting on a college student. (My husband was a junior professor at the time.) I believe the guy’s story because: My husband thought the woman was crazy and dangerous, and was ver…

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/769 "2025-07-21T16:49:14Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Social media has interpreted them as exactly the same:

That’s a “No”, then…

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> a general phenomenon

Once again - if it’s so general, you would be able to. Name. Them. Only one of your “cites” does so and I’ve already addressed - and dismissed - those three cases as being 2 _having zip to do with social media_ and one _being Johnny fucking Depp_ 😂.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The cases I know of first-hand or indirectly (indirectly meaning second-hand, through trusted friends) I have never characterized as “many”.

They were raised in reply to my just asking “Name them” _and nothing else_. The intimation was entirely yours. Backpedaling _now_ is _definitely_ what you’re doing.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> But I doubt I’ll ever get that retraction.

Not as long as you keep playing whatever game of denying that your posts are in any way sequentially linked, you’re not.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > that’s **[pretty much exactly what happened](https://www.tmz.com/2018/06/15/chris-hardwick-denies-sexual-assault-chloe-dykstra-abuse-relationship/)**,
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> Holy Hastur : do you not _see_ the difference between that article saying “Hardwick denies claims” and the hypothetical “Dykstra makes false accusations” one? They are in no way “exactly” the same.

Also, shit, can’t you see the vast gulf between these two?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/771 "2025-07-21T16:52:17Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Yes: right-wing misogynists use social media to cancel Chloe Dykstra, using arguments similar to the ones you’re using here. Is that the point you’re intending to make? &nbsp;

No, the point I’m intending to make is that AFAICT (I don’t do social media) the “Chris Hardwick responds, saying Chloe Dykstra is lying” post came from exactly the same source – TMZ – as the original headline published on TMZ. Just posted on their Facebook account instead of their website.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/772 "2025-07-21T16:56:22Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Curious which, if any, of these statements you still stand behind.

If you’re implying a contradiction, I don’t see any.

I would, however, acknowledge that “Dysktra tried to smear Hardwick with unsubstantiated accusations” was a bit strong and just conjectural on my part. More accurately, as I said later, there’s reason to believe that both were at fault to some degree, but I think it’s reasonable to infer from Hardwick’s reinstatement that at least some of Dykstra’s claims were exaggerated or lacked appropriate context. I totally agree with what @Spice_Weasel said upthread, which I think is a very reasonable assessment:

> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I don’t know if that lady was telling the truth. I’m very sensitive to what crazy looks like, and she looks like crazy to me, but crazy people are regularly victimized so that proves nothing. My WAG is he probably was abusive in some ways and not in others. But I don’t actually know.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/773 "2025-07-21T17:01:32Z")

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We’re losing the plot here. To trace things back:

1. @Wolfpup accuses Dykstra of engaging in “cancel culture slurs” and of “libeling him [Hardwick] on social media” and of engaging in the “venting of a bitter ex.” with claims that he “wouldn’t consider…to be credible” and behavior “not characteristic of someone who genuinely wants the full truth to come out.”
2. @Puzzlegal says that he’s “acting out the very cancel culture he derides.”
3. He denies this, saying that “nothing I said here could be materially damaging to Dykstra’s career.” Here I advise folks to look back at the quotes in point 1.
4. @Miller argues that a NYT headline accusing her of false accusations would damage her career.
5. @Wolfpup denies that it would, because “that’s pretty much exactly what happened,” only instead of linking to a journalistic headline saying things like he said in post 1, he links to an article containing Hardwick’s denials, headlined “Chris Hardwick Breaks Silence, Denies Sexually Assaulting Chloe Dykstra”
6. When @MrDibble points out the difference, @Wolfpup doubles down by showing how shitty people on Facebook are to Dykstra in response to the article–bizarrely supporting @Miller’s point about how Dykstra would be affected by claims like @Wolfpup’s.

As an aside, looking at Dykstra’s article, she claims that Hardwick tried to have her blacklisted, and also, she has very little work listed on her Wiki page either before or after her essay was published. She may well have been blacklisted, or she might just not have made it in entertainment, like most people who tried.

So what we’re seeing is that when women speak up about abuse, hordes of misogynists tend to descend on them. If cancel culture operated here, surely it was against Dykstra, not against Hardwick, that it brought its most egregious excesses.

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Yes: right-wing misogynists use social media to cancel Chloe Dykstra, using arguments similar to the ones you’re using here. Is that the point you’re intending to make?

I think the problem here is @wolfpup avoiding one of the main issues from the OP:

> [@Irishman](#):
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> The right coined this term as an attempt at a derisive label for the actions. But my previous definition was coined as a reference to things like movie ratings system, the Hollywood Hayes Code, trying to ban particular music and then forcing warning labels on cds.
> 
> So I would like a more coherent definition of those terms so we can make sure we are taking about the same phenomena.
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> To me, censorship is restrictions on speech by some authority source, typically a government entity.

Some other poster also demanded that we don’t talk about how the right wing ([and he who should not be named](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/nov/23/he-who-must-not-be-named-why-is-trump-unnamed-in-so-many-books)) is weaponizing the cancelling, and at the same time pushing a framework (Again, that is coming from the right too) that one should not point this in discussions like this one here. It ends up as making the old ‘they are the same’ false equivalence argument, or that we should talk only about the issue and ignore the exaggerations the elephant in the room made to justify the huge weaponization of cancelling that many do see now.

> **[Republicans Aren't Abandoning Free Speech Principles — They Never Had Any](https://www.readtpa.com/p/the-gops-free-speech-facade-what)**
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> How Jeremy Peters' latest piece misses the obvious truth about Republican campus speech tactics

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