# Cancel Culture and Canceling versus consequences for actions **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 8, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644 "2025-07-08T22:55:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1035 "2025-10-14T23:02:35Z")
Wow, that is a disgusting group of individuals. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1036 "2025-10-14T23:12:05Z")
Two things to which I’ve made semi-frequent reference, and that these texts (being disclosed) bring to mind: > **[Stanford prison experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment)** > > The Stanford prison experiment (SPE), also referred to as the Zimbardo prison experiment (ZPE), was a controversial psychological experiment performed in August 1971 at Stanford University. It was designed to be a two-week simulation of a prison environment that examined the effects of situational variables on participants' reactions and behaviors. Stanford University psychology professor Philip Zimbardo managed the research team who administered the study. Zimbardo ended the experiment early > **[The Third Wave (experiment)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment))** > > The Third Wave was an experimental movement created by the high school history teacher Ron Jones in 1967 to explain how the German population could have accepted the actions of the Nazi regime during the rise of the Third Reich and the Second World War. > While Jones taught his students about Nazi Germany during his senior level Contemporary World History class, Jones found it difficult to explain how the German people could have accepted the actions of the Nazis. He decided to create a fictiona... [There are YouTube videos about each. They’re as gripping and fascinating as they are disturbing and timely] ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1037 "2025-10-14T23:14:15Z")
Who clearly can’t think up a **good** joke to save their lives. So they fall back on haw-haw-hawing about bigoted slurs and attempted “shock value” hyperbole. I mean, it’s not such a surprise that they don’t mind bigotry, but it’s a bit of a surprise that they all seem convinced that saying bigoted things automatically means they’re just so witty and cool. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1038 "2025-10-15T00:53:24Z")
The right likes to call this “locker room talk”. The right also likes to hold themselves up as the party of Christian values. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1039 "2025-10-15T02:29:34Z")
I really think the only comments that will be deal breakers for Republicans are the criticisms of Trump. I’m kind of amused by this story because it appears they are destroying their own reputations through their own petty infighting and the guy who deeply apologized while simultaneously suggesting the texts were doctored is just gold. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1040 "2025-10-15T22:15:01Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Who clearly can’t think up a **good** joke to save their lives. So they fall back on haw-haw-hawing about bigoted slurs and attempted “shock value” hyperbole. > > I mean, it’s not such a surprise that they don’t mind bigotry, but it’s a bit of a surprise that they all seem convinced that saying bigoted things automatically means they’re just so witty and cool. Humor is often transgressive, about saying things we aren’t _supposed_ to say. It’s just that the standard that _these_ people want to transgress against is “bigotry is bad”. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1041 "2025-10-16T14:35:19Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s just that the standard that _these_ people want to transgress against is “bigotry is bad”. Under the cover of the “well if you’re going to call us Nazis then we might as well act up like it” insane “logic”. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1042 "2025-12-05T17:53:55Z")
[https://www.npr.org/2025/12/04/nx-s1-5633444/trump-content-moderation-visas-censorship](https://www.npr.org/2025/12/04/nx-s1-5633444/trump-content-moderation-visas-censorship) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1043 "2025-12-05T20:30:37Z")
That Trump, a bastion of free speech protections. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1044 "2025-12-05T20:43:10Z")
In the interests of being a non-partisan big mean cancel-baby who ruins reputations: [Sen. Ruben Gallego Groans Democrats Don't Allow 'Women to Be Hot' in Leaked Texts](https://people.com/ruben-gallego-groans-about-democrats-leaked-texts-11857626) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1045 "2025-12-05T21:53:14Z")
Yeah, the Republican Party doesn’t have a monopoly on shallow douchebro assholes, even if they do have a strong numerical majority in that category. Gallego’s yearning for “men to be men and women to be hot” is classic shallow douchebro asshole, Democrat or no Democrat. The specific mocking of the 80-year-old Congresswoman from CT for not being “hot”, though, reached above-average levels of disgusting entitlement. I hope Gallego’s own abuela rips him a new one for that, and reminds him that he’s no oil painting himself. That, plus the brazenness of Gallego’s doubling down post-leak by claiming he just wants the Democrats to be more “inclusive” (of whom? shallow douchebro assholes whose idea of constructive political discourse is making fun of elderly female colleagues for not being “hot”?), makes me suspect that he’s got a bright future in the Republican Party. They love them some “anti-woke” turncoats over there, and aren’t bothered by lying. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1046 "2025-12-06T17:21:48Z")
> **[Ashwaubenon Cinnabon employee fired for racist comments caught on video](https://fox11online.com/news/local/ashwaubenon-cinnabon-employee-fired-after-deeply-troubling-video-circulates-online)** > > ASHWAUBENON, Wis. (WLUK) - A woman working at a Cinnabon stand in Bay Park Square has been fired after anonline video showed her calling customers a racial slu SMDH, you just can’t say anything anymore. How long until she has a GoFundMe going and seat in Congress? ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1047 "2025-12-08T17:17:01Z")
I understand that there already is a gofundme and she already has made more from being a racist bully than her yearly salary at Cinnabon. MAGA loves their racists. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1048 "2025-12-08T17:33:46Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > How long until she has a GoFundMe going > [@Airbeck](#): > > I understand that there already is a gofundme I thought GoFundMe was pretty good about taking down fundraisers for racists, Christian nationalists, and murderers like Luigi - hence why people in those categories flock to GiveSendGo instead. In this case, I see a few GoFundMes that are still up in her name, but I’m assuming those are fraudulent (they’re set up by other people and you tend to see that whenever one of this things happens) - what appears to be her real fundraiser, where she’s got over $100,000, is GiveSendGo. (Actually, this one was also started by another person, so who knows - maybe this one is a fraud, too.) > **[Crystal Wilsey GiveSendGo hits $100k donations for fired Cinnabon employee](https://www.newsweek.com/crystal-wilsey-givesendgo-donations-fired-cinnabon-employee-11172269)** > > Wilsey was fired from a Cinnabon location in Wisconsin after a video of her directing racial slurs at a Somali couple went viral. With GiveSendGo being a “Christian” site I thought it might be pretty exclusive to the racists and Christian nationalists, but apparently Luigi did get one after his GoFundMe was taken down, and he raised over $1,300,000 there. So I guess it’s for all kinds of trash. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1049 "2025-12-08T23:32:25Z")
GoFundMe doesn’t touch things like this with a 39 1/2 foot pole, but GiveSendGo will finance just about anything. Yeah, this one goes there. > **[Cinnabon worker fired from Wisconsin store after shouting racist slurs at...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cinnabon-worker-fired-wisconsin-store-shouting-racist-slurs-at-customers/)** > > A Cinnabon worker in Wisconsin has been fired after a racist outburst directed at two customers went viral, the company said. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1050 "2025-12-08T23:37:31Z")
p.s. GiveSendGo also raised 7 figures for Karmelo Anthony, a teenager who killed a boy from another school at a track meet. Be prepared to dive down a VERY deep rabbit hole if you want to pursue that story. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1051 "2025-12-08T23:44:12Z")
And here’s anotherl link WRT her GSG. I took one for the team and not only looked it up, but also checked out the comments. Yeah, they don’t censor that either. > **[Crystal Wilsey GiveSendGo hits $100k donations for fired Cinnabon employee](https://www.newsweek.com/crystal-wilsey-givesendgo-donations-fired-cinnabon-employee-11172269)** > > Wilsey was fired from a Cinnabon location in Wisconsin after a video of her directing racial slurs at a Somali couple went viral. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1052 "2025-12-09T00:21:28Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > With GiveSendGo being a “Christian” site I thought it might be pretty exclusive to the racists and Christian nationalists, but apparently Luigi did get one after his GoFundMe was taken down, and he raised over $1,300,000 there. So I guess it’s for all kinds of trash. That’s… surprising to me, because I recently lost a friend to cancer who tried to raise funds using GiveSendGo. He was a Jewish anti-theist and he and his wife were raging liberals. I did notice a Bible verse on the website and thought, “huh,” but now I’m bewildered how these two people chose that platform. (Maybe someone set it up for them?) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1053 "2025-12-09T00:30:00Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I did notice a Bible verse on the website and thought, “huh,” but now I’m bewildered how these two people chose that platform. (Maybe someone set it up for them?) Almost certainly, I think that’s much more common than people setting it up for themselves ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/1054 "2025-12-09T00:30:21Z")
> **[Fla. man vowed to behead Rep. Ilhan Omar and ‘eat’ her kids after Charlie...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ilhan-omar-charlie-kirk-twitter-threats-b2880397.html)** > > First in The Independent: Myles McQuade, 30, pleaded guilty to one count of transmitting an interstate threat to injure, which could put him behind bars for up to five years [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644.md?page=43)