# Cancel Culture and Canceling versus consequences for actions

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**Created:** [July 8, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644 "2025-07-08T22:55:19Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancel-culture-and-canceling-versus-consequences-for-actions/1020644/669 "2025-07-19T20:14:14Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> What you are trying to peg as cancel culture is more like FAFO. Don’t try to excuse very anti-ethical acts. Adultery is widely considered to be anti-ethical …

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> He’s not at risk of losing his job because of cancel culture, he’s at risk of losing his job _because he was publicly seen cheating with the HR head_.

The automatic presumption of guilt in both those statement is duly noted.

Note the difference in my position versus those two. Rather than presuming guilt, I’m saying that we don’t have all the facts. **We don’t know the full story.** Were they having an affair? Probably, but maybe not. We don’t know. Was he “cheating” on his wife if they were in the process of an amicable divorce and mutually agreed to see other people? We don’t know.

We do know that some very nasty accusations were made against Chris Hardwick and three separate investigations concluded otherwise. We know that this guy has been put on leave pending the results of an investigation. He may be fired, or he may be exonerated. We don’t freaking know. But social media, ever-vindictive, unrepentant, and utterly unaccountable, has already deemed him guilty in a tsunami of malicious denigration.

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