# Cancelled: My Own Worst Enemy, Lipstick Jungle - And Perhaps Prison Break Too **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 13, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601 "2008-11-13T21:42:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/81 "2008-11-15T23:17:19Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > It’s just so damn _gay_. Not gay as in lame, but gay as in something that feels targeted toward a feminine sensibility. Plus the colors and sets in general looked like something out of a gay pride parade. > > All the "squee"ing going on in the weekly threads sure didn’t help my interest. Thank you! I couldn’t agree more. I loved the first season of Pushing Daisies, but it’s been losing me fast this season. There is still a lot to like–the throw-away lines in this show are funnier than most of the main gags in other shows, and the cartoony ghoulishness of the morgue scenes are entertaining. But the whole Ned/Chuck relationship drama is so tiring and Ned just comes across like a fourteen year-old girl the way he mopes and obsesses over the tiniest things. It seems like the show is targeting 14 to 17-year-old high school drama geeks. That’s not going to attract advertisers. ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/82 "2008-11-16T01:14:31Z")
> [@Elenfair](#): > > It’s like selling your soul to Satan, really. 😃 On a related note, I’ve heard a rumour that Reaper might not be coming back for its second season next January after all. Have you - or anyone else - got any news on that? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/83 "2008-11-16T01:16:23Z")
> [@Kal](#): > > On a related note, I’ve heard a rumour that Reaper might not be coming back for its second season next January after all. Have you - or anyone else - got any news on that? Noooo! ---
**Author:** ![Elenfair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cc9497/32.png) [@Elenfair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elenfair)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/84 "2008-11-16T13:40:28Z")
\*\*Reaper: \*\* There were casting-calls and sides coming across desks as of November 6, 2008. As far as I know, it’s still alive. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/85 "2008-11-16T17:05:58Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > Yeow. I for one think that he’s the weakest link of the show. The man couldn’t act his way out of a paper bag: both Edward and Henry have the exact same mannerisms, which are the exact same mannerisms every single Christian Slater character has ever had. Compare that with the other actor playing a dual role, the bald guy: he can act, and his two characters are easily distinctive. I just don’t get that; I thought he did great. It was clear to me when he was Henry, when he was Edward, and when he was one pretending to be the other. Fine, subtle differences. (The show as a whole makes absolutely no sense, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/86 "2008-11-16T17:38:34Z")
> [@Elenfair](#): > > **About to die** > > Dirty Sexy Money (ABC) > > **On the bubble, by the ratings?** > > Without a Trace (CBS) ☹ I _lurv_ Dirty, Sexy Money. Donald Sutherland _rawks_. That whole quirky family is an absolute hoot! I will miss them if/when they’re no longer entertaining me. And I only recently discovered Without a Trace in reruns on cable, but I’ve gotten kind of hooked. At least it’ll probably stay in circulation for a while, so I’ll still be able to see it from time to time. But man, I’m really bummed about Dirty, Sexy Money. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/87 "2008-11-18T01:43:20Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > What shows do you like? Sorry for the late, late answer, but a television drama that I’m not ashamed to admit I like just occurred to me: Mad Men. That’s what’s not crap. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/88 "2008-11-18T01:56:30Z")
> [@Elenfair](#): > > \*\*Reaper: \*\* There were casting-calls and sides coming across desks as of November 6, 2008. As far as I know, it’s still alive. Yeah, as of today it’s still filming in BC. The new season starts after new years which for the CW means sometime at the end of January. I think 13 episodes were ordered… ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/89 "2008-11-18T02:24:12Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Sorry for the late, late answer, but a television drama that I’m not ashamed to admit I like just occurred to me: Mad Men. That’s what’s not crap. One of the only shows I watch that is not faced with cancellation. It is a well written and well acted show. Not network fare, that is for sure. My network shows are down to three. Chuck which was at its best tonight, Pushing Daisies which is almost surely doomed and Reaper which I am happy is at least getting to return. I gave up on My Name is Earl for some reason at the start of this season. My TV viewing is mainly Yankees, NY Giants, TDS and the 3 light hearted dramas list above. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/90 "2008-11-18T03:20:25Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > ☹ > > I _lurv_ Dirty, Sexy Money. Donald Sutherland _rawks_. That whole quirky family is an absolute hoot! I will miss them if/when they’re no longer entertaining me. Yep. It’s not as fun as last year, but I love the show. It’s like cheese puffs for the brain. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/91 "2008-11-18T03:26:56Z")
> [@Elenfair](#): > > … > **Probably gonna die in May** > … > TSCC (FOX) > … Nooo! it’s a vicious cycle. even if a show looks interesting, why would i invest myself on a show that might be cancelled without a true resolution or even worst, mid-season? perhaps reality shows are so popular because at least they don’t serve people cold turkeys? ---
**Author:** ![lunar\_elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lunar\_elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lunar_elf)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/92 "2008-11-18T13:29:33Z")
I watch Lipstick Jungle - but this season doesn’t seem as interesting as last years. It had all this intrigue and and suspense to it, but this season it just seems like a yawn fest. I read the book in between seasons and really couldn’t figure out how it made to a TV show anyways. I figured once it moved to Friday night the show was going to die, and I’m not too upset. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/93 "2008-11-18T13:36:48Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > Nooo! it’s a vicious cycle. even if a show looks interesting, why would i invest myself on a show that might be cancelled without a true resolution or even worst, mid-season? perhaps reality shows are so popular because at least they don’t serve people cold turkeys? I watched _Wonderfalls_ and _Freaks & Geeks_ on DVD based on their mention here, and knowing full well they were canceled. It actually helped, knowing going in, they may not have a satisfying conclusion. It’s kind of like ripping the band-aid off before it gets a chance to hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/94 "2008-11-20T17:47:28Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Yeah, because no one watches Lost or 24 or Heroes or American Idol or Survivor or any other show that requires knowledge of the ongoing story. :rolleyes: Have you watched 24? The first 3 minutes of each show are “previously on 24” just so the people who didn’t watch earlier will know what’s going on. Lost was nearly shitcanned _because_ it got so fricking complicated. And seriously, American Idol and Survivor? The only people who need to watch week-to-week are obsessives. Everyone else tunes in to hear people sing or people bitch – what came before is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/95 "2008-11-20T17:59:07Z")
> [@Barbarian](#): > > Have you watched 24? The first 3 minutes of each show are “previously on 24” just so the people who didn’t watch earlier will know what’s going on. What does that have to do with whether or not people like serialized shows? And it’s not like these kinds of shows are new. Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest, 90210 and Melrose Place were all big hits in the 80s and 90s. > [@](#): > > Lost was nearly shitcanned _because_ it got so fricking complicated. Cite that Lost, one of the highest rated shows on television, was ever in danger of cancellation. ---
**Author:** ![phall0106](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phall0106/32/5934_2.png) [@phall0106](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phall0106)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/96 "2008-11-20T18:07:35Z")
> [@medstar](#): > > Yeah, I heard that “My Own worst Enemy” was being cancelled, due to low audience figures of about 4.3 million people . And it goes bfffft without a chance to turn the buzz around. I will really wish that show and “Life” would be given more of a chance to find their audiences. Ditto. “Life” is one of the few shows Hallboy is allowed to stay up later (past his bedtime) and watch with me. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/97 "2008-11-20T19:12:13Z")
> [@phall0106](#): > > Ditto. “Life” is one of the few shows Hallboy is allowed to stay up later (past his bedtime) and watch with me. That show is responsible for the latest catch phrase in my household. “Did you feel that?” ---
**Author:** ![JpnDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JpnDude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JpnDude)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/98 "2008-11-20T21:34:46Z")
This is the current cycle of shows\* that I follow weekly. Glad to see that just a few are in danger of being cancelled this season. 30 Rock Amazing Race Chase Criminal Minds Desperate Housewives Dirty Sexy Money Entourage Friday Night Lights Greek Grey’s Anatomy It’s Always Sunny in Phil. Kitchen Nightmares Mad Men Office Pick Up Artist Private Practice Survivor Top Chef Worst Week (\* - other serial programs I watch in batches every few months or so) ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601/99 "2008-11-20T21:47:16Z")
Jeez, why are TV networks always messin’ with the line-ups? Life was great when, on Thursdays, we had: 1. The Cosby Show 2. Family Ties 3. Cheers 4. Night Court I submit that if this never changed, watching TV wouldn’t be so damn stressful. I’m actually apprehensive to get into anything (read: not watch it) due to fears that the show will be canceled abruptly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelled-my-own-worst-enemy-lipstick-jungle-and-perhaps-prison-break-too/472601.md?page=4)