# Cancelling the Obamas? WTF **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193 "2021-04-02T00:16:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/1 "2021-04-02T00:16:46Z")
Go to say this is the bizzaro world! [https://grahamallen.com/2021/04/cancel-cultures-latest-victim-barack-obama/](https://grahamallen.com/2021/04/cancel-cultures-latest-victim-barack-obama/) Is this an April fools joke? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/2 "2021-04-02T00:24:07Z")
I really don’t see how this is ‘cancel culture.’ I do, however, see that there is room for thoughtful debate on this issue. It’s one school. If the district is heavily Latino then there may be strong feelings on the issue. The school kids get a look at how the system worked and how it probably should work. But I’m pretty sure of two things: - The Obamas will be moved by your concern, and - They’ll be okay ETA: a bit more depth on the topic: > **[Latinx speakers urge Waukegan school board not to rename middle school for...](https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/ct-lns-waukegan-school-board-st-0401-20210331-i7hg4fwhmbhaxbvcu3qqczvgqe-story.html)** > > The Waukegan Community Unit School District 60 Board of Education heard impassioned pleas not to name one of the district's middle schools after former President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/3 "2021-04-02T00:27:30Z")
This is the problem with cancel culture: If you demand perfection, you’ll never get it. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/4 "2021-04-02T00:33:30Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Go to say this is the bizzaro world! > [Cancel Culture’s Latest Victim: Barack Obama the ‘Oppressor’…](https://grahamallen.com/2021/04/cancel-cultures-latest-victim-barack-obama/) Is this an April fools joke? Why don’t you tell me what the fuck it is, without expecting me to click your link? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/5 "2021-04-02T00:41:52Z")
That link gave me cancer. It’s so bad it’s not even worth wasting pit space over. OP, you should be ashamed of yourself. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/6 "2021-04-02T00:45:14Z")
You clicked on it? With that weak ass OP? I either admire you or are afraid of you. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/7 "2021-04-02T00:48:32Z")
Happy Birthday, @Bobot ! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/8 "2021-04-02T00:49:22Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Why don’t you tell me what the fuck it is, without expecting me to click your link? Par for the course for the OP: > [@Eric Swalwell and CCP spy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-swalwell-and-ccp-spy/927673): > > Now here you go. > [@Swalwell ccp](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swalwell-ccp/927671): > > [https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-chinese-spy-slept-least-130946174.html](https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-chinese-spy-slept-least-130946174.html) > [@Rep. Eric. Swalwell and the CCP Spies](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rep-eric-swalwell-and-the-ccp-spies/927663): > > Rep. Swalwell political circle was infuriated by A CCP operative, The FBI reported at least two incidences. > [@Swalwel and the CCP who loved me](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swalwel-and-the-ccp-who-loved-me/928222): > > I’m putting this here because all the crickets and shut down elsewhere. This should be a investigation . If it ok then ok. But it’s a concern with all the other CCP interference. [Eric Swalwell under fire for connection to alleged Chinese spy - Washington Times](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/9/eric-swalwell-under-fire-connection-alleged-chines/) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/9 "2021-04-02T00:57:21Z")
Hey, thanks; it’s not actually today, though. It is this month. May there be a month of cake! And fuck eenerms, the stupid asswad! ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/10 "2021-04-02T00:59:33Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > And fuck eenerms, the stupid asswad! Welp. There goes the surprise gift I had planned for you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/11 "2021-04-02T01:05:58Z")
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/12 "2021-04-02T01:08:49Z")
Closing this until **Miller** decides what to do, but based on this prior post by Colibri and my experience with your creating Ops, you still haven’t learned to create an Op or you’re simply trolling. > [@Swalwel and the CCP who loved me](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/swalwel-and-the-ccp-who-loved-me/928222/4): > > eenerms, you’ve been instructed before to post some more explanation than just a link. You have never explained what you are on about. People need to know what this is about without clicking a link. This is insufficient even in the Pit. You may open another thread, but you need to explain what it’s about or it will be shut down again regardless of forum. This may be reopened or it may remain closed and further mod action may take place. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/13 "2021-04-02T05:28:26Z")
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/14 "2021-04-02T05:30:48Z")
[Moderating] I find the best corrective to this sort of OP is to let the rest of the board express their feelings about it. I’ll keep this open for the time being. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/15 "2021-04-02T05:44:00Z")
You’ve agitated the hive now. 50151281802 threads and posts on the Donald wherever and whenever are fine. But make a thread poking at the lunacy of the lunatic left and you better watch it. At least you didn’t make the mistake of saying anything bad about Joe Biden and his cluelessness. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/16 "2021-04-02T05:55:15Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > This is the problem with cancel culture: If you demand perfection, you’ll never get it. You really need to stop being so credulous. Just because a post aligns with your views doesn’t mean you shouldn’t check it to see if it’s legit, or see if it’s actually well argued or hasn’t been refuted by other comments. The link in the OP is right wing outrage culture bullshit. Always check real sources before believing stuff like that. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/17 "2021-04-02T05:57:21Z")
> **[Waukegan Latinx activists protest renaming Thomas Jefferson Middle School...](https://abc7chicago.com/waukegan-public-schools-barack-and-michelle-obama-thomas-jefferson-middle-school-daniel-webster/10459946/)** > > Some members of Waukegan's Latinx community say former President Obama's record of deporting 2.5 million immigrants should disqualify him. Is that on the Party approved list? And there is also a link to the Chicago Tribune in a post above. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/18 "2021-04-02T06:05:25Z")
Remaining as unable as ever to actually refute anything that has been said, I see. The Obamas are not being cancelled because some people are arguing that their school shouldn’t be renamed after them. By that logic, they’d be cancelling you by not naming the school the Octopus School for Crustacean Americans. Canceling, as much as it has a definition at all, means doing something that may harm the job of a person, or harassing them online. Neither of which is occurring here. The irony is that it is the right overreacting, not the left, and that’s what’s making people see that you just use “cancel culture” for whatever you want to get people upset about, regardless of whether there’s actually anything there. You look stupid for thinking we should do anything but mock this asinine attempt at pushing the culture war. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/19 "2021-04-02T06:18:07Z")
I didn’t write the article. Just sharing the link that is from a hopefully approved source. That said, your analysis of it not being a cancellation is actually true and your logic was sound. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193/20 "2021-04-02T09:34:36Z")
Graham Allen is a Turning Point lunatic. Anything and everything connected to him and his opinions should be barred as a valid citation merely on principle. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cancelling-the-obamas-wtf/939193.md?page=2)